Crazy how over hyped Chisora is has lost over a quarter of his fights and he is nearly at num 50. Wilder beats him every time. Even more crazier is people picking Allen who is just about british level. People like Chisora cause he comes forward like a slugger but they over hype him when he hits air a lot. Wilder isn't the best but he is still more athletic, hits harder and quicker, and actually made it to world champ regardless of what people say about opponents if it was so easy to have 10 defences plenty would have done it.
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On current form? Derek Chisora 'But at their absolute peaks, I would have to back Deontay Wilder to win. In a competitive and action packed fight while it lasted'.
Derek Chisora will push most heavyweight fighters, if he is able to endure their offense and power 'And still be able to launch his own attacks. Derek Chisora's tactics in most of all his top level fights, has been to tactically develop the action into a battle of attrition. Those are great tactics if? You back yourself at having the superior endurance, brute strength, durability and pressure fighting skills. Derek Chisora's best attributes as a fighter are his endurance, durability, brute strength and pressure fighting skills. In all of those areas he has been one of the strongest heavyweight fighters of his era, with that specific style of fighting'.
But Derek Chisora historically throughout his career, has shown that he is not invulnerable to physical attacks even at his absolute peak 'David Haye weighing in at 210 pounds, was outweighed by 37 pounds vs Derek Chisora. Who weighed in at 247 pounds, when they fought back in 2012. Up until that point in Chisora's career, he had never been decked during a fight or knock out by any of his opponents. His only two loses were against Vitaili Kiltschko and Tyson Fury I & II, all on points over the distance'.
Note: David Haye was the first opponent in Derek Chisora's career to meet force vs force and cancel out Chisora's momentum 'Haye blasted out Chisora inside 5 rounds, knocking him out for the first time in his career. Derek Chisora would not be decked or knock out again for another 6 years, during his rematch against Dillian Whyte in 2018'.
Since those two loses to David Haye and Dillian Whyte 'Yes Chisora has been beaten, but still? Even miles outside of his peak. No heavyweight fighter has been able to meet force with force and cancel out his moment. If he has been beaten, those fighters have always used classical boxing tactics to nullify his game and accumulative points. Those are precisely the tactics that Oleksander Uysk, Tyson Fury and Joseph Parker have all used to beat him. Out of those three fighters ironically Parker was the most offensively aggressive, which was the correct tactics for him to use because? Parker in my opinion has considerably more punching power than both Usyk and Fury'.
But I personally believe that Deontay Wilder at his peak 'Although his brute strength was nothing special, and actually one of his worst attributes. Wilder's power and innate aggression, combined with his physiological dimensions. Stylistically those attributes would have potentially made this fight very difficult challenge for Derek Chisora. Skill for skill Deontay Wilder technically was not a elite level boxer, but he did have a very solid jab. Wilder would be using his jab vs Chisora and just consistently trying to launch his power punches at Chisora'.
To conclude: Like I stated at the beginning of this post, on current form 'I think Derek Chisora would beat Deonaty Wilder. Chisora fundamentally is a better boxer than Wilder, and those fundamental skills are what show up in a fighter's style in the latter part of their career. Derek Chisora is a more sophisticated fighter than many people would like to acknowledge. A hallmark trait of this heavyweight era, is that very few fighters have an inside game. Chisora has been one of the few genuine top level heavyweight fighters with an inside game, and this is one of the factors why he has had solid longevity in the game. Many Super Heavyweight fighters in this modern era can box, but very few can really just straight up fight'.
I think Deontay Wilder at his peak 'Just had too much power, for Chisora to win a battle of attrition against. I would imagine in a hypothetical match up, Wilder would be busted up badly. But eventually Derek Chisora's momentum would be cancel out by Wilder determination, aggression and power'.
Note: I did not vote on the poll etc.
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Originally posted by Boxing 112 View PostCrazy how over hyped Chisora is has lost over a quarter of his fights and he is nearly at num 50. Wilder beats him every time. Even more crazier is people picking Allen who is just about british level. People like Chisora cause he comes forward like a slugger but they over hype him when he hits air a lot. Wilder isn't the best but he is still more athletic, hits harder and quicker, and actually made it to world champ regardless of what people say about opponents if it was so easy to have 10 defences plenty would have done it.
Yeah Wilder made it to world champ by beating stiverene. That's essentially a bye. 10 title defenses or 10 Wilder defenses? Wilder would get 0 if he fought chisoras level of opponents. Chisora would never waste everyones time trying to hype and market himself with easy opponents. That was disgraceful.
The only guy wilder beat thst could beat Chisora was ortiz and that's still a tough fight for both. Chisora Parker 1 and chisora Whyte 1 probably should have gone to chisora and he fought much better competition and did much better for the most part.
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Originally posted by daggum View Post
If we are doing an overhyped contest wilder wins everytime. Chisora is just a good solid fighter. People are picking him over Wilder because Wilder was overrated and got completely exposed as far from top level. The perception of Wilder was off, not chisora. In reality they are pretty close its just chisora has a much bigger sample size of fights agaisnt legit opponents. Wilder has a false image based on lots of easy opponents.
Yeah Wilder made it to world champ by beating stiverene. That's essentially a bye. 10 title defenses or 10 Wilder defenses? Wilder would get 0 if he fought chisoras level of opponents. Chisora would never waste everyones time trying to hype and market himself with easy opponents. That was disgraceful.
The only guy wilder beat thst could beat Chisora was ortiz and that's still a tough fight for both. Chisora Parker 1 and chisora Whyte 1 probably should have gone to chisora and he fought much better competition and did much better for the most part.
If he's regained the trigger; things could get interesting on the old timers circuit.
Wilder has once again called out his less durable contemporary, Anthony Joshua, just yesterday. its in the news.
I think that Joshua's braintrust has let Wilder cook long enough, now in his 40s, so just maybe we'll get to see them in the same ring together.
Careful what you wish for.
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Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post
Wilder may have little left after such a long career, but we'll know more about that after next week.
If he's regained the trigger; things could get interesting on the old timers circuit.
Wilder has once again called out his less durable contemporary, Anthony Joshua, just yesterday. its in the news.
I think that Joshua's braintrust has let Wilder cook long enough, now in his 40s, so just maybe we'll get to see them in the same ring together.
Careful what you wish for.
Wilder has been knocked out more than Joshua and he hasn't fought the same level of opposition. Less durable? Lmao
Wilder avoided the fight constantly thats already been proven so not sure what you are talking about. Wilders braintrust matched him soft for his entire career fighting bums. Joshau was matched tough and you use that to criticize him. NonsensicalLast edited by daggum; Yesterday, 12:46 PM.
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wilder cant pull the trigger anymore, chisora will just rush him and wilders only chance was to catch him coming in which he dont throw anymore, chisora would stop him these days. hard to win a fight when you dont throw punches
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Now Doeboy.
Back in the day when Wilder had his confidence, right hand and his old trainer. Its Wilder. He would lose every round until his right hand connects. Back in his prime his right hand always connects at some point.
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Originally posted by MalevolentBite View PostNow Doeboy.
Back in the day when Wilder had his confidence, right hand and his old trainer. Its Wilder. He would lose every round until his right hand connects. Back in his prime his right hand always connects at some point.Last edited by daggum; Yesterday, 01:39 PM.
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