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  • #21
    Originally posted by Boxing 112 View Post
    Crazy how over hyped Chisora is has lost over a quarter of his fights and he is nearly at num 50. Wilder beats him every time. Even more crazier is people picking Allen who is just about british level. People like Chisora cause he comes forward like a slugger but they over hype him when he hits air a lot. Wilder isn't the best but he is still more athletic, hits harder and quicker, and actually made it to world champ regardless of what people say about opponents if it was so easy to have 10 defences plenty would have done it.
    Wilder isn't very athletic at all. He's got very skinny legs and his balance is awful, especially on the back foot. No inside game.

    There's a reason he never faced a true pressure fighter and why Fury rolled through him so easily when he pressured him. Duhaupas was probably the closest to a pressure fighter and he gave Wilder HELL.

    Chisora is limited, but he's everything that Wilder hates. He would walk Deontay down, destroy him on the inside.

    Wilder needs boxers who give him range, because he simply isn't athletic enough to make his own space or move.

    Horrible style matchup for Wilder.

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    • #22
      wilder.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by M312 View Post

        Wilder isn't very athletic at all. He's got very skinny legs and his balance is awful, especially on the back foot. No inside game.

        There's a reason he never faced a true pressure fighter and why Fury rolled through him so easily when he pressured him. Duhaupas was probably the closest to a pressure fighter and he gave Wilder HELL.

        Chisora is limited, but he's everything that Wilder hates. He would walk Deontay down, destroy him on the inside.

        Wilder needs boxers who give him range, because he simply isn't athletic enough to make his own space or move.

        Horrible style matchup for Wilder.
        Skinny legs? Like Ray Robinson, Thomas Hearns, Bob Foster, Jon Jones? Jeszooos! These casuals and their comments. Fury rolled through him so easily. Brilliant.
        Earned 3 shots at the real heavyweight title, fighting a legenday draw in one of those; defended his Alpha-Belt more than any of his contemporaries could.

        I like Wilder. Undefeated until age 34, at 42-0, Always exciting, always showed up in shape, unlike Fury, and never quit on his feet when the going got tough, like the fragile prima donna, Joshua, who got starched on his way to a title shot, which sadly, would always elude him as the losses to underdogs began to mount.
        Wins over the retired Wladdy, a washed up Pulev and Povetkin, a premature Whyte and Parker, just cannot come up to balancing out Joshua's fails.
        Wilder simply a better fighter.

        Anybody can spin a story.

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        • #24
          - - Both shot to shyte and only the cruel who love the gruel of a shot fighter ever want to see either.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

            Skinny legs? Like Ray Robinson, Thomas Hearns, Bob Foster, Jon Jones? Jeszooos! These casuals and their comments. Fury rolled through him so easily. Brilliant.
            Earned 3 shots at the real heavyweight title, fighting a legenday draw in one of those; defended his Alpha-Belt more than any of his contemporaries could.

            I like Wilder. Undefeated until age 34, at 42-0, Always exciting, always showed up in shape, unlike Fury, and never quit on his feet when the going got tough, like the fragile prima donna, Joshua, who got starched on his way to a title shot, which sadly, would always elude him as the losses to underdogs began to mount.
            Wins over the retired Wladdy, a washed up Pulev and Povetkin, a premature Whyte and Parker, just cannot come up to balancing out Joshua's fails.
            Wilder simply a better fighter.

            Anybody can spin a story.
            Boxers can have skinny legs - but I'm responding to him as an 'athlete'. He has nothing in his legs. No power, no movement, no footwork, no balance. He's simply not an athlete.

            He has some serious power, but he can't utilise it when he's on the back foot, because of all the issues with his legs/feet. Falls over himself too much and can't create space.

            Casuals like you don't notice these things. Just the wild knockouts v no hopers who can't create angles or close gaps.

            I don't know why you're knocking other peoples opponents, Wilder has never beaten anyone close to any boxer you named in your reply. Not one.

            Embarrassing post from you.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by M312 View Post

              Boxers can have skinny legs - but I'm responding to him as an 'athlete'. He has nothing in his legs. No power, no movement, no footwork, no balance. He's simply not an athlete.

              He has some serious power, but he can't utilise it when he's on the back foot, because of all the issues with his legs/feet. Falls over himself too much and can't create space.

              Casuals like you don't notice these things. Just the wild knockouts v no hopers who can't create angles or close gaps.

              I don't know why you're knocking other peoples opponents, Wilder has never beaten anyone close to any boxer you named in your reply. Not one.

              Embarrassing post from you.
              You must be right about all of that, because it came from your head.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

                You must be right about all of that, because it came from your head.
                I am right about it, that's why you can't dispute it

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                • #28
                  Wilder would've ENDED this overrated jellybaby in his prime.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by M312 View Post

                    I am right about it, that's why you can't dispute it
                    I wouldn't dare.

                    A good trainer, of course, will find all of the characteristics that a young fighter exhibits, good and bad, and gradually develop a style AROUND those capabilities and liabilities; to exentuate the things that can be useful under the given rules chosen for the challenge, and buffer those aspects that are detractors from success.

                    Bodies and personalities are unique. They very. Mold something custom made for your fighter, Success or failure in the ring is your compass.

                    I apologize for getting snarkey. You're absolutely right about weaker pins and floppy balance as presenting challenges for dealing with pressure, my friend. You don't need an old man like me to tell you that, of course.

                    I do read in bemusment when people (not you) make a laundry list of things Wilder does wrong (did wrong), while ignoring his (past) results; and instead of trying to better understand the concept of "awkward" as applied to boxing (which is complex), they retreat to some diatribe about opposition quality, thowing out the contextual limits associated with that.

                    What I hear, is something like "Pablo Picasso was an unsusessfu painter, obviously, because his depictions of women frequently reduced them to symbols or abstract forms, stripping them of individuality".
                    My only dispute of that, is that Picasso was not unsuccessful, in spite of his style.

                    I beleive that you are a much better versed poster than those people. And I hope you connect.​

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