Francis Ngannou vs Tyson Fury II - Who wins?

[daggum]

We have to remember thst thr Ngannou from the Fury fight was prime Ngannou
the ngannou Joshua fought was well past it. Just like the wilder that fought Fury.
obviously prime wilder easily beats Fury and everyone else but thry waited till he was shot

[crimsonfalcon07]

We have to remember thst thr Ngannou from the Fury fight was prime Ngannou
the ngannou Joshua fought was well past it. Just like the wilder that fought Fury.
obviously prime wilder easily beats Fury and everyone else but thry waited till he was shot

Did you get hacked, daggum? Lmao.

[daggum]

Did you get hacked, daggum? Lmao.

Prime Ngannou and prime wilder the 2 biggest punchers in boxing history. Who else could knock Fury down? Besides the others who did it of course. Nobody!

[MulaKO]

You don't want to see a definitive answer to the question? When Floyd had close fights like that he usually rematched like Castilo and Maidana. So why not Fury, it's still an interesting match up even though AJ KO'd Ngannou quick, that can happen to anyone especially at heavyweight. Fury might struggle again which demonstrates the "styles make fights" factor in boxing, or if he puts on a masterclass then he'll be ready for a tougher challenge. Ngannou is a good opponent to fight again after 3 back to back losses.

Not really
I don’t find it challenging , honestly
Imo , he isn’t a boxer and it circles back to being a sideshow / circus ( your choice )

[Elastic Recoilz]

There is a possibility that Oleksandr Uysk first win against Tyson Fury, has damaged Fury's own durability levels and fortitude 'Tyson Fury has never had any issue ever, in any fight throwing caution to the wind. Fury after he was decked by Wilder, in their first fight? Got up off the deck, and went completely offensive against Deontay Wilder I. And we have seen many times before in Fury's career him apply those same tactics, against tremendously strong fighters such as Derek Chisora predominantly in their first fight'.

For the first time ever in Tyson Fury's career, when he really needed to against Oleksandr Uysk II 'Fury was very reluctant to pressurise Uysk, and throw caution to the wind. No matter what anybody claims? Oleksandr Uysk is not a monster punch, and he has never been renowned for his brute strength. But this was the type of fighter, who deterred Tyson Fury from moving forward against him'.

Note: There is a reason why Tyson Fury struggled vs Francis Ngannou 'And it has very little to do with him not training or being in condition. Tyson Fury was in fight condition, as he weighed in at 277 pounds. Which was exactly the same weight he came in against Deontay Wilder III. The people who claimed Tyson Fury was out of condition against Ngannou, were ether people trying to protect his reputation or? Folk who have no idea, what kind of condition a person like Fury would be in if he did not train. Tyson Fury throughout his life, has proven that he has the traits and lifestyle habits which would see him be way heavier than 300 + pounds, if he decided not to train seriously for a boxing fight'.

In the immediate aftermath of Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Uysk II 'I stated that Fury would avoid fighting Joshua, even though he stated prior to his rematch with Uysk. That he would definitively fight Anthony Joshua, because it is easy fight'.

Both Francis Ngannou 'And especially Anthony Joshua, are extremely bad stylistic match ups for Fury. Because they are Super Heavyweight fighters, they have serious punching power. And they have very refined and integrated boxing fundamentals, especially Anthony Joshua. Joshua at his absolute peak, or just in solid form. Is the most technical sound, and fundamental solid Heavyweight fighter in the division outside of Oleksandr Uysk'.

Tyson Fury skill for skill is not actually a technically sound and fundamentally solid fighter 'There are always moments in his fights, of complete technical calamity. I am pretty much sure no top amateur boxing coach in Great Britain, has their fighters watching videos of Tyson Fury. I don't think his style or technique is super great no matter what the media machine behind him try to promote'.

To conclude: Tyson Fury has lost his last 3 fights; his entire team know this to be true. He was beaten by Francis Ngannou, and he was beaten twice back to back by Oleksandr Uysk II'.

The likely-hood of Tyson Fury fighting Francis Ngannou II or Anthony Joshua 'Has decreased considerably. And I think Oleksandr Uysk I, and his first performance vs Tyson Fury has influenced this situation greatly' etc.

Really? Hands often down low, half heartedly pawing with the jab, chin high in the air, pulling back in straight lines, leading with uppercuts from miles out... AJ still doesn't have an identity with a definitive style and has many flaws. He is nowhere near being the second most technically sound. Dubois, Hrgovic and Parker are far superior to him in that regard,

[gauze]

i would like to see ngannou vs mike tyson for undisputed

[NihonJim]

There is a possibility that Oleksandr Uysk first win against Tyson Fury, has damaged Fury's own durability levels and fortitude 'Tyson Fury has never had any issue ever, in any fight throwing caution to the wind. Fury after he was decked by Wilder, in their first fight? Got up off the deck, and went completely offensive against Deontay Wilder I. And we have seen many times before in Fury's career him apply those same tactics, against tremendously strong fighters such as Derek Chisora predominantly in their first fight'.

For the first time ever in Tyson Fury's career, when he really needed to against Oleksandr Uysk II 'Fury was very reluctant to pressurise Uysk, and throw caution to the wind. No matter what anybody claims? Oleksandr Uysk is not a monster punch, and he has never been renowned for his brute strength. But this was the type of fighter, who deterred Tyson Fury from moving forward against him'.

Note: There is a reason why Tyson Fury struggled vs Francis Ngannou 'And it has very little to do with him not training or being in condition. Tyson Fury was in fight condition, as he weighed in at 277 pounds. Which was exactly the same weight he came in against Deontay Wilder III. The people who claimed Tyson Fury was out of condition against Ngannou, were ether people trying to protect his reputation or? Folk who have no idea, what kind of condition a person like Fury would be in if he did not train. Tyson Fury throughout his life, has proven that he has the traits and lifestyle habits which would see him be way heavier than 300 + pounds, if he decided not to train seriously for a boxing fight'.

In the immediate aftermath of Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Uysk II 'I stated that Fury would avoid fighting Joshua, even though he stated prior to his rematch with Uysk. That he would definitively fight Anthony Joshua, because it is easy fight'.

Both Francis Ngannou 'And especially Anthony Joshua, are extremely bad stylistic match ups for Fury. Because they are Super Heavyweight fighters, they have serious punching power. And they have very refined and integrated boxing fundamentals, especially Anthony Joshua. Joshua at his absolute peak, or just in solid form. Is the most technical sound, and fundamental solid Heavyweight fighter in the division outside of Oleksandr Uysk'.

Tyson Fury skill for skill is not actually a technically sound and fundamentally solid fighter 'There are always moments in his fights, of complete technical calamity. I am pretty much sure no top amateur boxing coach in Great Britain, has their fighters watching videos of Tyson Fury. I don't think his style or technique is super great no matter what the media machine behind him try to promote'.

To conclude: Tyson Fury has lost his last 3 fights; his entire team know this to be true. He was beaten by Francis Ngannou, and he was beaten twice back to back by Oleksandr Uysk II'.

The likely-hood of Tyson Fury fighting Francis Ngannou II or Anthony Joshua 'Has decreased considerably. And I think Oleksandr Uysk I, and his first performance vs Tyson Fury has influenced this situation greatly' etc.

I like how every single time I read one of your posts on any topic, I just know that about half way down you are going to start talking about Anthony Joshua

[PRINCEKOOL]

Really? Hands often down low, half heartedly pawing with the jab, chin high in the air, pulling back in straight lines, leading with uppercuts from miles out... AJ still doesn't have an identity with a definitive style and has many flaws. He is nowhere near being the second most technically sound. Dubois, Hrgovic and Parker are far superior to him in that regard,

Anthony Joshua's last fight was somewhat of a statistically anomaly 'I have admitted and stated this many times before. It was quite simply Anthony Joshua's worst ever professional performance, from technical perspective'.

Anthony Joshua even during his worst night ever vs Daniel Dubois, was in my opinion? On his way to turning the fight around, and systematically beating down Dubois over the distance. The statistics of the fight, show this trajectory appearing in the action. All the signs were there in that fight; in round 5 Anthony Joshua went from landing on average 40% of his punches, to over 80% of his punches during round 5. Even after being decked in round 1, the facts of that fight are? Anthony Joshua from the very moment he rose up off the canvas was slowly but surely, minute by minute fighting his way back into the fight. Before he amplified Dubois's punching power, by firstly making a technical mistake i.e. throwing an uppercut while wading forward with his guard completely down. This unforced error, amplified the power of Daniel Dubois which eventually lead to him then being knocked out'.

But apart from that? Anthony Joshua is definitively skill for skill the most fundamentally solid and technical sound Heavyweight fighter in the diversion. Joshua has proven his pure technical boxing skills at a higher level consistently throughout his career way more than Tyson Fury, Daniel Dubois, Filip Hrgovic and Joseph Parker. In fact? I have no idea why you are mentioning fighters other than Tyson Fury, who can compete with Joshua in this department. The three most proven and component boxers in the Heavyweight division are Oleksandr Uysk, Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua'.

We can all agree here that in regards to pure boxing skills 'Oleksandr Uysk is the ultimate Heavyweight fighter in this era. Uysk is the bench mark, therefore? When I state that Oleksandr Uysk, Tyson Fury, and Anthony Joshua are the three most component and proven pure boxers in the division. Those statements are actually backed up with hardcore evidence, what I am saying is not just a opinion. Both Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua have fought 24 rounds against Uysk, and the statistics of the action show that Anthony Joshua is a by far better boxer than many people want to claim'.

Note: Here are some statistics for you below, which pretty much display and prove Anthony Joshua's skill for skill boxing ability:

Workrate produced:Over the 48 rounds of action vs Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua.

Anthony Joshua over his two fights with Uysk, his work rate superior to Tyson Fury's 'Joshua threw 641 punches in the first fight, and then 492 punches in the rematch. Joshua's second fight with Uysk, showed that tactically? He was attempting to manage his pace more efficiently, which he did. But Uysk in response to this threw 712 punches. Out of all 4 Heavyweight titles fights vs both Fury and Joshua, Oleksandr Uysk produced his highest work rate vs Anthony Joshua II'.

Anthony Joshua vs Oleksandr Uysk II 'I personally regard that fight, as the absolute peak version of Uysk. Uysk vs Joshua II was throwing on average 300 + more punches than he did vs Tyson Fury I & II.

Punches landed: Over the 48 rounds of action vs Tyson Fury and Anthony'.

And people need to factor this in? The highest amount of punches, Uysk landed on Anthony Joshua 'Was during their rematch. 170 Punches. The highest amount of punches Uysk landed on Tyson Fury, was 179 punches during their rematch. Oleksandr Uysk was also able to land 170 punches on Tyson Fury in their first fight. While Oleksandr Uysk was able to land a total of 148 punches on Anthony Joshua during their first fight'.

Tyson Fury during his first fight against Oleksandr Uysk landed a total of 157 punches, and during the rematch he landed 144 punches. Anthony Joshua during his first fight against Oleksandr Uysk landed a total of 123 punches, and during their rematch landed a total of 124 punches'.

To conclude: The statistics of the fight action from all four fights, showed that Oleksandr Uysk in order to beat Anthony Joshua twice back to back 'Had to produce a greater effort, than he did up against Tyson Fury in their fights. Uysk had to produce a higher work rate against Joshua, in order to land a similar amount of punches that he did on Tyson Fury'.

The only area of the 48 round of action where Tyson Fury did better than Anthony Joshua 'Was being able to land more punches. That is it. But in all other areas of boxing, Anthony Joshua actually fought a better fight twice back to back than Tyson Fury. The statistics of the fight action, show there is hardcore evidence to back up this observation and opinion of mine'.

Daniel Dubois, Joseph Parker, Filip Hrgovic 'None of those fighters are anywhere near skill for skill the level of Oleksandr Uysk, Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua at their absolute peak or in solid form'.

Hardcore boxing fans and serious boxing analyst 'Can all agree that Oleksandr Uysk is the bench mark and litmus test. To prove a heavyweight fighters pure skill and technical boxing capacity. That is what Oleksandr Uysk represents in the Heavyweight game'.

Daniel Dubois was done by the middle rounds vs Oleksandr Uysk I 'And then he was knocked out by a single jab. Both Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua fought 24 competitive rounds vs Oleksandr Uysk I & II, neither fighter was knocked out'.

Filip Hrgovic, I understand that the Eastern European Countries have a great reputation and resume in the amateur ranks 'So let's all look back, and revisit what happen when Filip Hrgovic competed in the 2016 Olympics. Filip Hrgovic won an Olympic bronze medal, which is great achievement. But he was not the Olympic Champion. Anthony Joshua in comparison was the 2012 Olympic Champion'.

And then we have Joseph Parker 'I rate Parker as a fighter, and I would say? Outside of Uysk, Fury and Joshua. Joseph Parker is the most proven and component pure boxer in the Heavyweight Division. But he is not and has never been better fighter than Anthony Joshua'.

Anthony Joshua has already beaten Joseph Parker 'When he was a undefeated WBO World Heavyweight Champion, and during that fight Joshua hardly got out of 2nd gear'

The three most proven and component pure skill for skill Heavyweight fighters of his era are Oleksandr Uysk, Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua etc.

[Willow The Wisp]

Francis would have to earn his way back into the bigs. Dust off Aspinall and Jones to secure his UFC title, then a first win under bigs rules, and if Fury agrees...sure.
A trained and serious Fury has no problems however.
But a fighter is a fighter is a fighter.

[TMLT87]

Francis would have to earn his way back into the bigs. Dust off Aspinall and Jones to secure his UFC title

At this point it feels like there is as much chance of Ngannou actually coming back to the UFC and fighting Aspinall as there is of Jones/Aspinall happening.