Just rewatched the fight? - post scorecards here

[hammerhiem]

Original --------------------------------------- Reviewed

R1. 10-10 ------------------------------------------ 10-10
R2. 10- 9 Froch ------------------------------------ 10-9 Froch
R3. 9-10 ------------------------------------------- 9-10
R4. 9-10 ------------------------------------------- 10-9
R5. 10-9 ------------------------------------------- 9-10
R6. 10-9 ------------------------------------------- 9-10
R7. 9-10 ------------------------------------------- 10-9
R8. 9-10 ------------------------------------------- 9-10
R9. 9-10 ------------------------------------------- 9-10
R10. 9-9 ------------------------------------------- 9-9
R11. 9-10 ------------------------------------------ 9-10
R12. 9-10 ------------------------------------------ 9-10

112 Froch 116 Dirrell both times.

Differences:

First time around i gave Round four to Dirrell but on second viewing his work didn't look as good and mostly landed on Froch's gloves or missed. I aslo changed my mind on rounds 5 and 6 based on Froch's work missing when i took them to land on first viewing and finally i gave Dirrell round 7 initially but on second viewing none of his theatrical falling where due to Froch and purely down to gamesmanship.

I would like people to explain how they scored round one to either fighter, i have watched that round four times now and there was not a single landed punch in the round. How can you score a round to a fighter (or in this case either fighter) when they do not land a single punch? Both of the stood in the center of the ring and looked at each other doing nothing, occasionally one advanced and missed with the other retreating and missing.

Answers on a postcard.

[hammerhiem]

ricky hatton made a career out of holding and nullifying offense like what dirrell did last night. You cannot award a fight because one guy moves forward, getting hit the whole time and the other guy boxes circles going backwards, holds on the inside but lands far more punches. It is sad that people had this fight so close. Showtime should have stepped up and talked about this but they dont want to tarnish their tournament.

You clearly have never seen a Hatton fight.

Hatton has never spent a Round in his career on the backfoot avoiding punches. He was always a come forward fighter who smothered his work late in his career.

[bojangles1987]

It's getting ridiculous here, FROCH DIDN'T LAND PUNCHES. You can come forward all you want, you have to land a f*****g punch to win a round. Dirrell obviously did more, ****** crap he pulled and all.

[Vasyl’s dad]

It was an ugly fight all the way around. Both were at fault. It was a hard fight to score based on such lousy exchanges, if there were any. A robbery either way is wrong, it was a close fight where neither man dominated. I had Dirrell up by a point, but could see how someone could have it another way.
If Dirrell had any balls at all, he would be a dominating force. But hes not and will always get screwed in the end because hes incredibly inconsistent. The Lamar Odom of boxing. All the perfect physical tools and capabilities for their sport, but lacking the thing that helps them put it all together.

Doing "just enough to win", doesn't cut it in many views.

Tying up after a punch from long range because of a lack of an inside game is not defense.

Crying because you're getting hit, in a fight, is not going to get you favors from the ref.

Running away at times to kill clock is not boxing.

Until Dirrell realizes that just showing flashes of your talent in a fight is not enough to win them,

I can't feel sorry for him.

[BOX-A-LOT]

It was an ugly fight all the way around. Both were at fault. It was a hard fight to score based on such lousy exchanges, if there were any. A robbery either way is wrong, it was a close fight where neither man dominated. I had Dirrell up by a point, but could see how someone could have it another way.
If Dirrell had any balls at all, he would be a dominating force. But hes not and will always get screwed in the end because hes incredibly inconsistent. The Lamar Odom of boxing. All the perfect physical tools and capabilities for their sport, but lacking the thing that helps them put it all together.

Doing "just enough to win", doesn't cut it in many views.

Tying up after a punch from long range because of a lack of an inside game is not defense.

Crying because you're getting hit, in a fight, is not going to get you favors from the ref.

Running away at times to kill clock is not boxing.

Until Dirrell realizes that just showing flashes of your talent in a fight is not enough to win them,

I can't feel sorry for him.

Good points.

[adietheforestfa]

I was there at the fight. Just watched again twice.
My Score was 115-114 for Froch.

The two Judges with 115-112 were incorrect IMO

Froch did Just enough IMO

Styles make fights and Dirrel is all wrong for Froch.
Kessler will not Run, I can see the Cobra doing big damage to Kesslers body at some point. Should be a great fight.

Those shouting Robbery are way off the mark.

1 10-9 froch
2 10-10 ev
3 10-9 froch
4 9-10 dirrel
5 10-9 froch
6 10-9 froch
7 9 -10 dirrel
8 10-9 froch
9 10-10 ev
10 9-9 ev
11 9-10 dirrel
12 9-10 dirrel

115-114 for Froch

[P4P Opinion]

First post of this thread is the best post I've read in a long time. I'd have posted virtually exactly the same thing. I was at the fight and I've watched it twice afterwards.

[P4P Opinion]

It was an ugly fight all the way around. Both were at fault. It was a hard fight to score based on such lousy exchanges, if there were any. A robbery either way is wrong, it was a close fight where neither man dominated. I had Dirrell up by a point, but could see how someone could have it another way.
If Dirrell had any balls at all, he would be a dominating force. But hes not and will always get screwed in the end because hes incredibly inconsistent. The Lamar Odom of boxing. All the perfect physical tools and capabilities for their sport, but lacking the thing that helps them put it all together.

Doing "just enough to win", doesn't cut it in many views.

Tying up after a punch from long range because of a lack of an inside game is not defense.

Crying because you're getting hit, in a fight, is not going to get you favors from the ref.

Running away at times to kill clock is not boxing.

Until Dirrell realizes that just showing flashes of your talent in a fight is not enough to win them,

I can't feel sorry for him.

Another great post. I disagree with the score, giving it to Froch instead but we basically agree. I'm actually angry that Dirrell wasted his opportunity.

[Bhopreign]

You can't have a 9 - 9 round.

One fighter has to have a 10.

Thanks for exposing what I already suspected of you.

[The_Demon]

116-112 dirrell
and thats being generous too the average froch