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  • Unbiased
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    #121
    I just watched the fight for the first time on youtube.

    I scored it:

    1. Dirrell
    2. Dirrell
    3. Dirrell
    4. Dirrell
    5. Dirrell
    6. Froch
    7. Froch
    8. 9-9 even
    9. Froch
    10. 9-0 even
    11. Dirrell
    12. Dirrell

    115-111 Dirrell. I agree that Dirrell should have been penalized a point for excessive holding, but the referee didn't. I guess the "leaning in" penalty made up for it. Froch on the other hand couldn't really be penalized for hitting in the back of the head because Dirrell kept ducking below the belt line and what other target did he have?

    All in all, Dirrell was the MUCH cleaner, crisper puncher. He had way more pop in his shots. Froch rarely ever hit Dirrell cleanly. Froch's technique behind his punches looked horrible all fight and he really needs to learn how to throw a left hook. His balance was bad as usual also.

    I'm starting to think after watching Froch fights that he could really benefit from keeping his left hand up. Not only because it would keep a tighter guard, but more importantly it would help with his handspeed. His left jab and hook aren't quick enough for him to be holding it at waist level. It's ****y but its really not functional for him. Fighters who hold their left low at least have some handspeed.


    For those of you who gave Froch the win due to him coming forward:

    I love an aggressive fighter that comes forward, but the question is what he does when he finally gets inside. Froch didn't throw good enough combinations when he did get in. I had Calzaghe ahead by a good margin against Bhop in their fight. Calzaghe's pressure though was a LOT more effective than Froch's. Froch rarely threw combinations, and when he did they were very poor technique. Also he always looked like the one who was off balance, even after the combinations.


    I expect Froch to get knocked the **** out by Kessler next fight. Kessler's gonna catch him and catch him GOOD. Pretty sure it'll be Kessler vs. Abraham in the finals. Kessler to take home the trophy.
    Last edited by Unbiased; 10-20-2009, 11:26 PM.

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    • Shadows
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      #122
      Originally posted by Unbiased
      I just watched the fight for the first time on youtube.

      I scored it:

      1. Dirrell
      2. Dirrell
      3. Dirrell
      4. Dirrell
      5. Dirrell
      6. Froch
      7. Froch
      8. 9-9 even
      9. Froch
      10. 9-0 even
      11. Dirrell
      12. Dirrell

      115-111 Dirrell. I agree that Dirrell should have been penalized a point for excessive holding, but the referee didn't. I guess the "leaning in" penalty made up for it. Froch on the other hand couldn't really be penalized for hitting in the back of the head because Dirrell kept ducking below the belt line and what other target did he have?

      All in all, Dirrell was the MUCH cleaner, crisper puncher. He had way more pop in his shots. Froch rarely ever hit Dirrell cleanly. Froch's technique behind his punches looked horrible all fight and he really needs to learn how to throw a left hook. His balance was bad as usual also.

      I'm starting to think after watching Froch fights that he could really benefit from keeping his left hand up. Not only because it would keep a tighter guard, but more importantly it would help with his handspeed. His left jab and hook aren't quick enough for him to be holding it at waist level. It's ****y but its really not functional for him. Fighters who hold their left low at least have some handspeed.


      For those of you who gave Froch the win due to him coming forward:

      I love an aggressive fighter that comes forward, but the question is what he does when he finally gets inside. Froch didn't throw good enough combinations when he did get in. I had Calzaghe ahead by a good margin against Bhop in their fight. Calzaghe's pressure though was a LOT more effective than Froch's. Froch rarely threw combinations, and when he did they were very poor technique. Also he always looked like the one who was off balance, even after the combinations.


      I expect Froch to get knocked the **** out by Kessler next fight. Kessler's gonna catch him and catch him GOOD. Pretty sure it'll be Kessler vs. Abraham in the finals. Kessler to take home the trophy.
      Pretty much everyone who saw it the way you did scored it for Dirrell.

      Quick question though; is the 8th a typo? You have it 9-9.

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      • Unbiased
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        #123
        Quick question though; is the 8th a typo? You have it 9-9.
        I actually had both the 8th and 10th rounds tied at 9-9.
        One of those rounds (I forget which one) Dirrell got penalised for "leaning in" but I had Dirrell winning that round as he hurt Froch a little before the bell rang.

        The other 9-9 round, I just called it a tie because neither fighter did much of anything. If I picked one or the other It really would have been a coinflip for me because I didnt think either had the advantage over the other. I should rewatch that round though maybe I'd be able to pick a winner after a second viewing.

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          #124
          Originally posted by Unbiased
          I actually had both the 8th and 10th rounds tied at 9-9.
          One of those rounds (I forget which one) Dirrell got penalised for "leaning in" but I had Dirrell winning that round as he hurt Froch a little before the bell rang.

          The other 9-9 round, I just called it a tie because neither fighter did much of anything. If I picked one or the other It really would have been a coinflip for me because I didnt think either had the advantage over the other. I should rewatch that round though maybe I'd be able to pick a winner after a second viewing.
          Yeah, it was the tenth that he was penalized, but landed a series of counters that wobbled Froch in waning seconds of the round.

          Oh ok. I figured you would've had it 10-10 for an even round. I gave it to Froch as IMO, he won it when he landed a left hook that stunned Dirrell. Other than that nothing really happened that round.

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          • stovepipe
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            #125
            I had Froch winning it by one point.

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              #126
              Originally posted by Shadows
              Yeah, it was the tenth that he was penalized, but landed a series of counters that wobbled Froch in waning seconds of the round.

              Oh ok. I figured you would've had it 10-10 for an even round. I gave it to Froch as IMO, he won it when he landed a left hook that stunned Dirrell. Other than that nothing really happened that round.
              Who did you have winning the fight?

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              • Shadows
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                #127
                Originally posted by Unbiased
                Who did you have winning the fight?
                Dirrell, 115-112. I had it 7-4-1 in his favor, but I was being generous to Froch and gave him an early swing round.

                I've seen the fight several times now, and cannot find a way to give him five rounds, nevermind six or more.

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                • Dan...
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                  #128
                  I haven't seen the fight yet but the TS has gotta be one of the most biased posters on here so I wouldn't go placing a lot of importance on what he says.

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                    #129
                    Originally posted by Dan...
                    I haven't seen the fight yet but the TS has gotta be one of the most biased posters on here so I wouldn't go placing a lot of importance on what he says.
                    I've noticed that during my short time here.

                    Did you download it yet?

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                    • NakiFan
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                      #130
                      How can anyone give round 1 to Direll?

                      i had it 10-10 even all they did was look at each other for 3 minutes

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