Just rewatched the fight? - post scorecards here

[Stickman]

That's pretty much the way I saw it.

Dirrell could have been more aggressive, but still, I thought he won clearly.

When you fight scared for 12 rounds, you can't expect judges to be sympathetic. I had Dirrell ahead as well, but I can easily see why he wasn't given the nod here, and in fact I expected it before they announced the decision.

And Andre did fight a scared, nervous fight. He had multiple opportunities in every round to press the action and only took advantage of a few. He spent much of his time with his head below his waist, just plain running, or tying up, to avoid getting hit, rather than using his own offense as part of his defensive game. The fight was his to win, and he could've done so in dramatic fashion. He had huge advantages in speed, skill and talent, and just refused to put them to good use. He even had Froch pretty buzzed at one point, but failed to capatalize on his advantages.

NO judge is going to look favorably on this type of fighter, as I'm sure Dirrell knew even while he was doing it.

I'm disappointed as hell in Andre, and I hope he's learned his lesson from this shameful performance.

[Dynamite Kid]

To be fair judges should not have to sympathize with you, if you have been scoring the better shots round by rounds and that is how they have scored it " the correct way" then it should not make any difference how you achieved it, when they have tallied up their scorecard it should read Dirrell.

Clottey looked to me like he won the rounds he won bigger than Cotto and that he deserved to win the fight, but he does not auto get the fight in his favour because the impression he left on me made me think he deserved to win, there is a scorecard and what ever that scorecard reads when its tallied up is who wins the fight.

It does make me laugh that people want to give Froch subliminal points for walking foward but they dont want to give Dirrell points he has earned by scoring punches. If he did as much moving and not enough sticking he would not of outlanded Froch would he?

[Stickman]

Judging a fight is very subjective, and every fighter knows that you have to not only land punches, but look like you're in control of the pace and type of action. It's called ring generalship. And I'm not saying that you can't win simply by landing more punches than the other guy, all I'm saying is that you just can't depend on the judges giving you a decision when that's all you've done.

Again, I had Dirrell a winner on my card, but I just can't call this a robbery because the judges didn't. He gave them too many reasons for them to slide rounds to Froch, and it showed on the cards.

[Dynamite Kid]

Judging a fight is very subjective, and every fighter knows that you have to not only land punches, but look like you're in control of the pace and type of action. It's called ring generalship. And I'm not saying that you can't win simply by landing more punches than the other guy, all I'm saying is that you just can't depend on the judges giving you a decision when that's all you've done.

Again, I had Dirrell a winner on my card, but I just can't call this a robbery because the judges didn't. He gave them too many reasons for them to slide rounds to Froch, and it showed on the cards.

Well judges are instructed to score under 4 specific criteria aren't they? and ineffective aggressiveness, forcing the fight is not one of them.

Dictating the tempo of a fight imo is having the other guy fighting your fight and there is no question in my mind that Dirrell had Froch fighting his fight, much like how Malignaggi dictated the pace of the Diaz fight. If anyne got ring generaled it was Froch, surely? Dirrell threw when he!!! wanted to throw for the most part, he controlled the tempo for the most part to.

[El_Cholo]

Who cares. If you lose a point you can only get a max of nine. Did the judges really give him ten points?

yeah it was a shutout

[REMOVED SHARK 97]

Well judges are instructed to score under 4 specific criteria aren't they? and ineffective aggressiveness, forcing the fight is not one of them.

Dictating the tempo of a fight imo is having the other guy fighting your fight and there is no question in my mind that Dirrell had Froch fighting his fight, much like how Malignaggi dictated the pace of the Diaz fight. If anyne got ring generaled it was Froch, surely? Dirrell threw when he!!! wanted to throw for the most part, he controlled the tempo for the most part to.

It wasn't anyone's fight that's why it was a poor spectacle, Dirrell wasn't willing to fight more than 30 seconds each round.

He was just avoiding Froch for the near rest.

[BMWM3P]

Lmao, let me guess, you scored for coming forward and getting peppered in the face. Boxing is about punches it isn't a tough guy contest.

Pepperred? What a joke, Dirrell barely threw any punches. Diller was more worried about Froch hitting him than him hitting Froch and that's why he lost the fight. If you can see that then you are dumber than I thought you were.

[cortdawg25]

I rewatched the Floyd/Corrales fight. And it was basically this fight with season vets and some knockdowns. Giving froch that win is like what it would have been like if they gave that fight to Corrales. U can't come forward and land nothing and claim u were effective!

[cortdawg25]

Pepperred? What a joke, Dirrell barely threw any punches. Diller was more worried about Froch hitting him than him hitting Froch and that's why he lost the fight. If you can see that then you are dumber than I thought you were.

what is you on? Dirrell outlanded him, hurt him, and landed cleaner. Off the 4 criteria of Effective Aggression, Clean punching, ring generalship, and defense....which of those areas did Froch do better than Dirrell in?

[Mushashi]

115-113 Froch.

I scored round 6 and round 10 even (9-9). If it wasn't for the point deduction I'd have the fight closer.

It was a close fight either way. In the middle of the fight Froch's aggression won him his rounds because Dirrell wasn't willing to engage his punches.

If Dirrell had stood his ground and chose to brawl with Froch like he did in the 10th and 11th, he could have won this fight.