For all the people that have Inoue at #1 P4P
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Speaking of p4p, Fury sucks.
Usyk beat Fury.
I'm talking about p4p fighters not HOF.
I think Fury was in the p4p rankings circa around 2021 and he beat a hall of famer in Klitschko.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...pound_rankings
Spence has been in the p4p rankings from 2017-2024 so I think eventually he'll get inducted into HOF.Comment
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Spence is definitely not first ballot
But like I said, he'll eventually get in
There are fighters inducted that are undeserving but get in due to their prolonged stay in the p4p rankings (Hatton, Corrales, etc.)
I dont know much about Fury as I dont like him.
But Inoue hasn't fought a p4p fighter.
Donaire was last in the p4p rankings in 2013.
6 years removed when Inoue fought him.
Fury was in the p4p in 2021.
Usyk fought him in 2024.
About 3 years removed.
Which makes Usyk's case a little bit better i guess?
And Fury was undefeated whereas Donaire got slept and schooled already by Walters and Rigo.Last edited by ijudge; 05-05-2025, 05:06 AM.Comment
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Haha...inoue's defence is shaky against a guy that is not that good, and that guy has so many flaws, leaving his body open. I am not into pound for pound lists, but inoue can never be no.1 with that type of performance. Usyk right now is the man due to what he accomplished.Comment
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Yes, usyk is deserving other than that heavyweights aren't usually seen as pf p fighters thoughHaha...inoue's defence is shaky against a guy that is not that good, and that guy has so many flaws, leaving his body open. I am not into pound for pound lists, but inoue can never be no.1 with that type of performance. Usyk right now is the man due to what he accomplished.Comment
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That might have been more believable if Inoue had done anything other than beating a near 40 y/o
Maybe inoue gets dropped too as he feels too superior and is complacent. I mean if inoue just tried outpointing him inoue could ve done that safely without being dropped.
I mean if usyk went into a Josh and fury fight feeling so superior and complacent it mightve ended badlyComment
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Originally posted by ijudge
The Ring p4p rankings
Explore The Ring’s Men’s Pound-for-Pound rankings. See who’s leading the pack with the latest rankings, detailed stats, and analysis of top male boxers.
Wikipedia displays the past timeline of ring p4p rankings as well
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...pound_rankings
I actually prefer this one as it has Teofimo instead of Devin, but again it's subjective. I think a P4P top 15-20 list would stop most arguments. That's why I like to use the phrase "P4P-caliber" because being outside of the top 10 doesn't mean a fighter isn't capable or doesn't fit a legitimate criteria/rubric.
Last edited by kiaba360; 05-05-2025, 06:59 AM.Comment
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P4P isn't official. Plenty of organisations have rankings, but it's fantasy stuff.
Spence is definitely not first ballot
But like I said, he'll eventually get in
There are fighters inducted that are undeserving but get in due to their prolonged stay in the p4p rankings (Hatton, Corrales, etc.)
I dont know much about Fury as I dont like him.
But Inoue hasn't fought a p4p fighter.
Donaire was last in the p4p rankings in 2013.
6 years removed when Inoue fought him.
Fury was in the p4p in 2021.
Usyk fought him in 2024.
About 3 years removed.
Which makes Usyk's case a little bit better i guess?
And Fury was undefeated whereas Donaire got slept and schooled already by Walters and Rigo.
If the argument for legitimacy of one fighter being ranked highly in P4P is that they beat someone else considered a P4P fighter then you see where this falls down, right? How did you rank the other fighter? They're just fighters in the same weight class... and probably one where more fighters get regarded as P4P fighters.
There are plenty of achievements to judge a fighter on without making things up.
Otherwise why stop at just comparing weight classes? Why not include women? Fk it, get some paralympians in there.
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