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  • PRINCEKOOL
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    #131
    Sometimes fighters would fight defensively vs Mike Tyson 'But he was still able to eventually get to them, knock them out or more clearly out box them over the distance. Canelo Alvarez should have been able to close that distance, and beat down William Scull. But he did not'.

    Overall I think William Scull deserves credit for being able to evade Canelo Alvarez for 12 rounds 'I wonder whether coming into the fight, his goal was to just survive the 12 rounds. Because no matter what people say now about him? It is still a creditable achievement surviving 12 rounds vs Canelo Alvarez. That is a good performance to have on his resume'.

    If Canelo Alvarez's future opponents decide to use the same tactics 'They are automatically forfeiting the fight. That is why I don't expect the genuine proven elite level fighters such as Terrence Crawford to fight with the same tactics. Yes they may well be putting themselves in more jeopardy, but? They would also be giving themselves more opportunities to score points and win the fight vs Canelo Alvarez'.

    I don't particularly think Canelo Alvarez had a bad performance; he won almost every single round 'Stylistically William Scull was just not engaging with Alvarez in the areas of his game, where he is at his absolute best. This is just basic tactical warfare, which is used even in military battles'.

    Note: Boxing is a battle sport, so people should not expect all fighters 'To just turn up on fight night, and use the same fight tactics. If promoters, the media and boxing fans have an issue with those kind of fights? Then in all honesty, we all know that styles affect the action of fights. I am sure there are many people in the boxing community, who could easily create quite intriguing boxing match ups, through their understanding of stylistic match ups'.

    Before Oleksandr Uysk vs Tyson Fury I 'I was one of the very few people, who stated that the fight will be more action packed than people are anticipating. I stated this because? There was just too much on the line in fight, for the two fighters to just fight a skill for skill points scoring fight. And I totally disagreed with the cliches, and media narratives on Oleksandr Uysk's style as an fighter. I knew that Uysk was going to apply the pressure, because when analysing the styles of each fighter that was his best tactics for him to achieve the win'.

    To conclude: Terrence Crawford is most likely going to try and duplicated what Floyd Mayweather Junior did to Canelo Alvarez 'Gears, movement, and skill for skill boxing. So I would expect that fight to be more action packed, but? Crawford in order to achieve the win, will be be fighting a more fundamentally dangerous fight than William Scull'.

    But overall I don't think it was a terrible performance by Canelo Alvarez 'He appeared to be in solid condition, and won 95 to 100% of the rounds. It may have been a stylistically unintriguing fight, but it was without a shadow of a doubt a straight forward and easy fight for Canelo Alvarez' etc.




    Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 05-05-2025, 06:20 AM.

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    • TonyRespectful
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      #132
      Originally posted by champion4ever
      While it was boring; I thought that William Scull had a very difficult style for Canelo and made it a very hotly contested bout. He made the fight close.

      The lack of power is what prevented Scull in letting his hands go more. Canelo looked beatable. It was the most competitive fight Canelo has had at 168.

      This guy knew how to box.. This performance should give Bud Crawfiotd confidence in knowing that he could defeat Alvarez.

      I thought that Chris Mannix and Sergio Morra’s commentating was horrible. They were attempting to turn William scull into a fighter that he is mot.

      The man is just a pure boxer. That’s his style. It’s how he always fight. They were trying turn him into a fighter that he was not.
      Pure boxer ? Boxing is the hurt game, This is not amateur Boxing!!!! Worst comment on this thread, congratulations

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      • TonyRespectful
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        #133
        Originally posted by champion4ever
        You sound like another Chris Mannix and Sergio Mora. The question should be why couldn’t your hero cut off the ring if William Scull was so terrible?
        If he didn't cut off the ring then how did he land so many clean body shots ? You don't know boxing, obviously.

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        • TonyRespectful
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          #134
          Originally posted by eco1

          OLD Golovkin won the first 2, the third, he stepped into the fight mid fight and Clenelo was gassing badly.
          You're wrong

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            #135
            Originally posted by elegua
            This has been the most "fixed fight" in the history of boxing...Even if Scull KO Canelo (what never could happen) they could invent something to get Canelo-Crawford fight. Scull got more $$$ this way than if he could "win" the fight. You remember when Canelo fought Floyd despite he was so clear defeated there it was even a judge favoring Canelo. When Rigo defeated clearly Donaire the "reward" Rigo got was the contempt and criticism of Bob Arum and from there Rigo was "done" with boxing. Yesterday was Arum, today it's Turki Alalshikh "at bat"...He's who decides no matter what...

            I'm thinking you are Cuban. No llores

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            • TonyRespectful
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              #136
              Originally posted by JeBron Lamez
              While I certainly appreciate reading the debate in this thread regarding cutting off the ring...

              ...that's not the only way to catch a rabbit.

              You don't chase, you build your control.

              Canelo used to set traps very effectively, does getting older drain the mind of the ability to think through not just a vague strategy but appropriate tactics with which to achieve it?

              One can absolutely walk a runner down in straight lines; slowly, gradually & sneakily with the back foot settings (a la Sean Strickland in MMA or like Foreman II used to), using punch angles that restrict him by being where he's going to be (e.g. like Canelo did to Khan).

              When was the last time Alvarez tripled up or varied the level of the jab on the way in...??? Used the waist & knees in any way whatsoever....????

              We out here acting like a boxer (in this instance a knockout artist at that!) taking the risk of expending energy in order to force the fight against an opponent who is reluctant/unwilling to engage is a criminal expectation or suttn, like WT actual F smh looooooooooool.

              We must not make excuses for the poor performances of supposed champions, regardless of what the opponent does (outside of extreme silly shït).

              You think Chavez ain't catching this guy? Baby Beterbiev? FOHeeeeeeere​
              Depends on the age of Chavez. He couldn't catch Pernell.

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              • j0zef
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                #137
                I've bched at a lot of bad fights.. This was the first time in recent [5 years?] memory that I actually went and turned it off - I think in the 5th or 6th. This was just.. bad. Like, not even good enough to be in the background bad. I have no idea how Canelo is still selling tickets. This was Rigondeux level bad.

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                • eco1
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                  #138
                  Originally posted by TonyRespectful

                  You're wrong
                  No I am not.

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                  • champion4ever
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                    #139
                    Originally posted by TonyRespectful

                    Pure boxer ? Boxing is the hurt game, This is not amateur Boxing!!!! Worst comment on this thread, congratulations
                    Wrong dumb ass! Boxing is not the hurt game. It’s called the “sweet science” for a reason. It’s the art of hitting and not getting hit.

                    Last edited by champion4ever; 05-06-2025, 03:59 AM.

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                    • damned1974
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                      #140
                      Originally posted by eco1

                      OLD Golovkin won the first 2, the third, he stepped into the fight mid fight and Clenelo was gassing badly.
                      No....If GGG deserved a nod, it was the first fight only. I am still baffled that you thought Trout won when even he believes he lost.

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