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Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post
Lol. Silly guy.
Seferi, at his peak, was a C level cruiserweight.
Pianeta, at his peak, was a C level HW.
Both were in their 40s and 10 years past their peaks when they fought Fury. You are touting those 2 fall guys as legit world title challengers, and calling me a silly guy?
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Originally posted by kafkod View Post
Fury relinquished his titles, surrendered his boxing licence and retired for 2 and a half years after failing a PED test and being declared medically unfit to fight, before coming back to fight Seferi and Pianeta.
Seferi, at his peak, was a C level cruiserweight.
Pianeta, at his peak, was a C level HW.
Both were in their 40s and 10 years past their peaks when they fought Fury. You are touting those 2 fall guys as legit world title challengers, and calling me a silly guy?
The historical precedence examining aborted retirement of reigning champions; Jeffries lost to Johnson, Tunney never resumed, Louis lost to Charles, Marciano never resumed, Ali lost to Frazier, Ali lost to Holmes, Lewis never resumed, and Fury...defeated Wilder, which negated any interim activities undertaken during Fury's absence.
Again, not rocket science, and no room for debate.
Be humble, get learned.
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Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post
Champ won title by shutting out the former champion W. Klitschko, lost the title to Usyk 9 years later. Tuneups after sabbatical were of his choosing, went after the more stable alternate title holder, fought him to a draw, then legitimized his possession of the actual championship in the Wilder rematch. Not rocket science.
The historical precedence examining aborted retirement of reigning champions; Jeffries lost to Johnson, Tunney never resumed, Louis lost to Charles, Marciano never resumed, Ali lost to Frazier, Ali lost to Holmes, Lewis never resumed, and Fury...defeated Wilder, which negated any interim activities undertaken during Fury's absence.
Again, not rocket science, and no room for debate.
Be humble, get learned.
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Originally posted by kafkod View Post
You are displaying your ignorance of boxing history by claiming that Jeffries came out of retirement to fight Johnson as the reigning lineal champion. That never happened. Jeffries fought Johnson as a challenger, not as the defending lineal champion. Nobody would have even known what a lineal champion was back then. The term didn't exist till the 1920s.
And no, I'm not going to afford you any further instruction. A student has to be both willing and able.
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Originally posted by PBR Streetgang View PostIf AJ/Wilder was announced, I would watch it. Both are past their prime but who knows what would happen. It would be like they Cooney/Foreman fight...not relevant but still interesting and perhaps a springboard to something more meaningful.
Joshua while past his peak can still crack and has fast hands, Wilder has hands that look like he is punching under water now and can't take a punch to save his life.
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Originally posted by Flex Chizzy View PostMan, if you rewatch Wilder and fury 1, Wilder looked so good. But man, I think that trilogy took everything out of him. He looked like a completely different fighter Zhang & Parker. He stopped throwing his big punches and started trying to box but never let his hands go again. Sadly, I think he’s done.
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