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  • #91
    Originally posted by daggum View Post

    You don't know what you are talking about. You are literally doing fan fiction. The only reason wilder finally agreed to the fight is because of the big saudi money. There was no big payday for wilder without them.

    There is also no scenario where joshua said no I don't want wilder, let him fight Parker while I fight wallin. You are literally making that up. The Saudis wanted easy fights for both guys. Did you know wilder was -600 against Parker while Joshua was only -380 agaisnt wallin? Like i said you are doing revisionist history. So that means wilder was a bigger favorite than Joshua yet you are acting like it was a tune up for Joshua and a tough fight for wilder.
    Turki wouldn't know a good fight from his hairy arse. He just stumped up the purse.

    Hearn was whispering in his ear and matchmaking the whole time to get paid and keep getting paid.

    Why have Joshua fight Wilder and maybe lose in one payday when he could have him fight twice and put a few more miles on the windmill's clock ?

    Of course it was a tuneup for Joshua and a tough fight for Wilder. No one wanted to see those fights.

    Joshua v Parker and Wilder v Wallin would have been better, but Joshua has always pissed his pants at the thought of rematching Parker.

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    • #92
      This bum should just sh.ut up and go away. he was neve rgood and he is like 50 years old now.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by daggum View Post

        Wilder turned down 100 million and ducked Joshua.

        Joshua did not duck wilder and force him to fight Parker. This is what the people with the money wanted. Revisionist history. You are literally making things up


        All along, the hope from the Riyadh Season organizers was that wins by Joshua and Wilder would lead to them facing each other next, and now the fight is fully agreed barring losses on Saturday.

        Joshua agreed to fight wilder before he signed for wallin but saudi pulled the money. https://talksport.com/boxing/1582598...eal-collapses/

        The General Sports Authority are staging Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou on October 28 in Riyadh, but were not involved with the Joshua vs Wilder agreement, hence why it has subsequently fallen through.
        "That was supposed to happen in January, we accepted the offer.

        "We know it's not materialised now. Because it was made by someone who couldn't deliver the fight at that time.

        "We'd agreed, Wilder had agreed, now we're talking to other sites about that fight in February or March and that's still the plan, very much the plan."


        Joshua has been trying to fight wilder for so long. You don't have the facts. Joshua offered wilder 12 million after wilders first ortiz fight when he made 2 million. Another duck right? He was pissing himself so he offered wilder 6 times his career high payday! Why would a scared person do that?

        Oh then the next year he offered him 100 million. He knew wilder would turn that down! Lowball! Why would a scared person do that? Then he signed to fight him in 2023 but saudi pulled the money. Joshua controls Saudia Arabia now? I remember Usyk, who, despite his achievements, always emphasizes the importance of sportsmanship and honesty in boxing, and not the desire to earn as much as possible. The fight between Joshua and Wilder did not take place due to financial troubles and delays in payments. Although I wanted to bet a large amount on that fight. Recently, I got tired of betting, I started reading on this website about bonuses and deposits. Now I watch boxing only for my own pleasure. In any case, money is a huge factor in modern boxing.​ Then he signed to fight him in 2024 but wilder lost because he knew Joshua was so scared of him that he just lost to give Joshua a break.

        Why does a scared person constantly keep signing to fight him and constantly make him career best offers? You don't have the cards as mango muss-olini would say. Most of the time it was wilder not wanting the fight with some bad luck thrown in. Of course wilders pr team tried an all hands on deck propaganda assault claiming he was being ducked but facts show it was hot air.
        It seems to me that this whole story with Wilder and Joshua ultimately comes down to money. After all, if it weren’t for the financial component, this fight would have taken place a long time ago, and we could have seen a real fight between two titans.
        Last edited by JakhmolaKasim; 06-22-2025, 03:18 PM.
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        • #94
          Originally posted by PBR Streetgang View Post
          If AJ/Wilder was announced, I would watch it. Both are past their prime but who knows what would happen. It would be like they Cooney/Foreman fight...not relevant but still interesting and perhaps a springboard to something more meaningful.
          ....and over course, Foreman used the win as a springboard to regaining the one and only Heavyweight CHAMPIONSHIP of the World. Hmmmmmm, Wilder is thinking.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Toffee View Post

            Not just Joshua. Everyone wanted Wilder. He was a sure thing with a big reputation.

            But they kept him in house and fed him the myth of Luis Ortiz.

            Even Fury straight out of the pub wanted Wilder. That was when Team Wilder messed up thinking that they were ones getting the sure thing with a decent status. Somehow they didn't realise that it was Fury who was getting that.

            From that moment we saw the real Wilder.
            Just because idol Anthony got himself blown away by an unranked late replacement and fell out of the running forever after, that's no reason to hate Wilder, who stepped up to fight for the one real title whilst Joshua never did. If Ortiz took his shot against Joshua instead of Wilder; he'd have secured the KO quicker than Ruiz did; I'm pretty sure.

            lol.....I got a million of em'

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            • #96
              Just looked at this card on boxrec, got to be one of the worst American ppv cards of all time. Almost as bad as some of the Australian stuff.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

                Just because idol Anthony got himself blown away by an unranked late replacement and fell out of the running forever after, that's no reason to hate Wilder, who stepped up to fight for the one real title whilst Joshua never did. If Ortiz took his shot against Joshua instead of Wilder; he'd have secured the KO quicker than Ruiz did; I'm pretty sure.

                lol.....I got a million of em'
                People act as if that pair of fights was the qualifier... Joshua v Ruiz and Wilder v Breazeale. Like there weren't multiple equivalent occasions before and after that they both came through and the fight still didn't happen. Right back to the Ortiz and Parker fights (when it really should have happened).

                I don't believe that Wilder thought he was stepping up for Fury. I think he believed he had an easy mark for a bit of reputation. He was fighting a guy who had just beaten Seferi and Pianeta. If that's what stepping up looks like then it says everything about the standing of your mythical title.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Toffee View Post

                  People act as if that pair of fights was the qualifier... Joshua v Ruiz and Wilder v Breazeale. Like there weren't multiple equivalent occasions before and after that they both came through and the fight still didn't happen. Right back to the Ortiz and Parker fights (when it really should have happened).

                  I don't believe that Wilder thought he was stepping up for Fury. I think he believed he had an easy mark for a bit of reputation. He was fighting a guy who had just beaten Seferi and Pianeta. If that's what stepping up looks like then it says everything about the standing of your mythical title.
                  Fury fought Seferi and Pianeta for the one and only real title!

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Toffee View Post

                    People act as if that pair of fights was the qualifier... Joshua v Ruiz and Wilder v Breazeale. Like there weren't multiple equivalent occasions before and after that they both came through and the fight still didn't happen. Right back to the Ortiz and Parker fights (when it really should have happened).

                    I don't believe that Wilder thought he was stepping up for Fury. I think he believed he had an easy mark for a bit of reputation. He was fighting a guy who had just beaten Seferi and Pianeta. If that's what stepping up looks like then it says everything about the standing of your mythical title.
                    Not a serious enough discussion partner. Want an audience with me? Gotta earn it.

                    Hyperbolic fan feedback isn't very valuble to me. In paper media days, I would research, craft an article and carefully explain, and readers had to get very motivated to reply with an envelope and stamp. Today; anyone who can afford a smart phone sees themselves as an expert who can hurl back a silly reply. More learning went on the old way, I believe.

                    No offense.

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                    • Originally posted by kafkod View Post

                      Fury fought Seferi and Pianeta for the one and only real title!
                      Champ was on extended medical leave. Champ gets to choose his challengers, which has always been the way. Champ was tuning up in preparation for knocking off the title claimants who crept up during his absence. Champ got half the pretenders licked, though it took three brutal fights against Wilder to do it; and the other guy, the Nigerian - Englishman, got laid out by a late substitute from the US, and fell out of the running.

                      Things unfold unexpectedly sometimes.

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