Ryan ain’t doing no Vada for rematch

[Smash]

If he's doing USADA then that's fine.

They catch many athletes just like VADA do.

Both are both gold standard drug testing protocols.

i did a bit of goggling and found this

"In order for the program to be effective and credible, it should be run by Vada.

Vada is the most reliable PED-testing entity in boxing. It conducts more thorough testing than any other entity and has the best reporting requirements.

There was an eight-year period when the United States Anti-Doping Agency (Usada) administered 1,501 tests for performance enhancing drugs to 128 professional boxers. But Usada reported only one adverse finding regarding a professional boxer to a governing state athletic commission during that time. And that report came after a website revealed that the fighter in question had tested positive for a banned substance.

It’s not plausible that Usada administered 1,501 tests to 128 professional boxers and that only one of these tests came back positive. By contrast, during the same time frame, Vada reported a positive test rate of almost 4%. Using the Vada benchmark, one would have expected that 60 of the 1,501 tests conducted by Usada would have yielded a positive result. After these numbers were made public in an investigative report, Usada stopped testing professional boxers"

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/article/2024/may/04/boxing-drugs-vada-saudi-arabia-turki-alalshikh

what do u think about that?

[MulaKO]

i did a bit of goggling and found this

"In order for the program to be effective and credible, it should be run by Vada.

Vada is the most reliable PED-testing entity in boxing. It conducts more thorough testing than any other entity and has the best reporting requirements.

There was an eight-year period when the United States Anti-Doping Agency (Usada) administered 1,501 tests for performance enhancing drugs to 128 professional boxers. But Usada reported only one adverse finding regarding a professional boxer to a governing state athletic commission during that time. And that report came after a website revealed that the fighter in question had tested positive for a banned substance.

It’s not plausible that Usada administered 1,501 tests to 128 professional boxers and that only one of these tests came back positive. By contrast, during the same time frame, Vada reported a positive test rate of almost 4%. Using the Vada benchmark, one would have expected that 60 of the 1,501 tests conducted by Usada would have yielded a positive result. After these numbers were made public in an investigative report, Usada stopped testing professional boxers"

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/article/2024/may/04/boxing-drugs-vada-saudi-arabia-turki-alalshikh

what do u think about that?

The point is the Haney’s said they would only entertain the rematch if Vada testing

[daggum]

doing usada is laughable. they have no credibility. if you have the clout they will go above and beyond to give tue exemptions even when they shouldnt. oh its ok its an exemption! they essentially tailor their program to the boxer to make sure everything he does is "legal" its called regulatory capture. same thing happening in the government right now

[MulaKO]

The article says he's doing a USADA testing protocol instead so that's not no testing.

I also thought that usada wasn't up to grade for boxing
I recall reading that somewhere

[IronDanHamza]

I also thought that usada wasn't up to grade for boxing
I recall reading that somewhere

How could that you possibly think that's the case?

[MulaKO]

How could that you possibly think that's the case?

Wasn’t there some controversy at some point and hence it becoming secondary to Vada
I'm asking if you recall that , not saying it’s a fact

[IronDanHamza]

doing usada is laughable. they have no credibility. if you have the clout they will go above and beyond to give tue exemptions even when they shouldnt. oh its ok its an exemption!

You don't even have the first clue about the credibility of USADA.

they essentially tailor their program to the boxer to make sure everything he does is "legal" its called regulatory capture. same thing happening in the government right now

Yeah this is just made up nonsense

They essentially tailor their program to the boxer? Please elaborate on that.

You do know boxing isn't the only sport that USADA have had extensive involvement in don't you?

[IronDanHamza]

Wasn’t there some controversy at some point and hence it becoming secondary to Vada
I'm asking if you recall that , not saying it’s a fact

No.

VADA is used predominantly by promoters/ORGs etc because it's cheaper.

They are both essentially the same thing, they do the same protocol and they undergo their testing in the same WADA lab.

VADA is the better of the two currently because they test for a few more things that USADA don't. But all the common/main stuff they obviously both test for.

USADA is a gold standard testing protocol.

[MulaKO]

No.

VADA is used predominantly by promoters/ORGs etc because it's cheaper.

They are both essentially the same thing, they do the same protocol and they undergo their testing in the same WADA lab.

VADA is the better of the two currently because they test for a few more things that USADA don't. But all the common/main stuff they obviously both test for.

USADA is a gold standard testing protocol.

Isn’t Vada more expensive ???
So you don’t recall controversy ???

[Smash]

If he's doing USADA then that's fine.

They catch many athletes just like VADA do.

Both are both gold standard drug testing protocols.

more gogling

"In July, WADA announced they had begun a compliance review of USADA following their ongoing issues about the Chinese scandal. This review marks the first time the US has been subject to such a review, and if the review finds that the United States is not in compliance, they would be barred from participating in or hosting the Olympics in 2028 and 2034.

Along with this review, WADA released a three-page letter sent to USADA Board Chair Dr. Tobie Smith, disparaging USADA. They state that the letter was initiated by an inquiry for CEADO about the U.S. anti-doping programs.

The letter claims that 90% of American Athletes compete outside the jurisdiction of the World Anti-Doping Code. They also slammed the US for the number of doping tests the United States completes calling it “far from optimal”. They cited a 2023 report which put the USADA testing number at 7,773 samples from 3,011 athletes. They put this number against testing done by other countries highlighting that it is less than half the amount of tests Germany completes with less than half the U.S. budget.

WADA also criticized the fact that in “more than half the sports, there was no in-competition testing carried out at all.” WADA goes on to slam the U.S. for their criticism of other countries. “USADA’s record does not compare favorably up against its peers in other countries. Yet, to distract from these serious issues with the state of the U.S. anti-doping system, USADA apparently tries to undermine U.S. athletes’ confidence in the integrity of their rivals overseas"

https://swimswam.com/tension-continu...ada-and-usada/