Ryan ain’t doing no Vada for rematch

[IronDanHamza]

i did a bit of goggling and found this

"In order for the program to be effective and credible, it should be run by Vada.

Vada is the most reliable PED-testing entity in boxing. It conducts more thorough testing than any other entity and has the best reporting requirements.

There was an eight-year period when the United States Anti-Doping Agency (Usada) administered 1,501 tests for performance enhancing drugs to 128 professional boxers. But Usada reported only one adverse finding regarding a professional boxer to a governing state athletic commission during that time. And that report came after a website revealed that the fighter in question had tested positive for a banned substance.

It’s not plausible that Usada administered 1,501 tests to 128 professional boxers and that only one of these tests came back positive. By contrast, during the same time frame, Vada reported a positive test rate of almost 4%. Using the Vada benchmark, one would have expected that 60 of the 1,501 tests conducted by Usada would have yielded a positive result. After these numbers were made public in an investigative report, Usada stopped testing professional boxers"

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/article/2024/may/04/boxing-drugs-vada-saudi-arabia-turki-alalshikh

what do u think about that?

I think it's mostly garbage.

Yes VADA tests for a few more things than USADA, and is the ideal of the two in my opinon for that reason. It doesn't mean USADA isn't a credible and gold standard testing procedure which is objectively is. To say it's "not plausible" to only have one positive test in that time frame is wrong, it's more than possible and certainly plausible.

To compare the numbers is dumb because USADA is barely used in boxing in comparison to VADA.

USADA was the testing protocol used in the UFC for over a decade and they caught a plethora of athletes during that time.

[MulaKO]

The controversy was between wada and usada

[IronDanHamza]

Isn’t Vada more expensive ???
So you don’t recall controversy ???

No, it's cheaper.

USADA has made mistakes yes, it's impossible to avoid in this line of work with the none stop moving parts.

VADA has made mistakes as well.

None of this changes the fact that USADA is a gold standard drug testing procedure.

[IronDanHamza]

more gogling

"In July, WADA announced they had begun a compliance review of USADA following their ongoing issues about the Chinese scandal. This review marks the first time the US has been subject to such a review, and if the review finds that the United States is not in compliance, they would be barred from participating in or hosting the Olympics in 2028 and 2034.

Along with this review, WADA released a three-page letter sent to USADA Board Chair Dr. Tobie Smith, disparaging USADA. They state that the letter was initiated by an inquiry for CEADO about the U.S. anti-doping programs.

The letter claims that 90% of American Athletes compete outside the jurisdiction of the World Anti-Doping Code. They also slammed the US for the number of doping tests the United States completes calling it “far from optimal”. They cited a 2023 report which put the USADA testing number at 7,773 samples from 3,011 athletes. They put this number against testing done by other countries highlighting that it is less than half the amount of tests Germany completes with less than half the U.S. budget.

WADA also criticized the fact that in “more than half the sports, there was no in-competition testing carried out at all.” WADA goes on to slam the U.S. for their criticism of other countries. “USADA’s record does not compare favorably up against its peers in other countries. Yet, to distract from these serious issues with the state of the U.S. anti-doping system, USADA apparently tries to undermine U.S. athletes’ confidence in the integrity of their rivals overseas"

https://swimswam.com/tension-continu...ada-and-usada/

I think that article is criticizing the USA in general more than anything

[MulaKO]

No, it's cheaper.

USADA has made mistakes yes, it's impossible to avoid in this line of work with the none stop moving parts.

VADA has made mistakes as well.

None of this changes the fact that USADA is a gold standard drug testing procedure.

Just by doing some searches , not many think the way you do and much less consider usada as a gold standard

[IronDanHamza]

Just by doing some searches , not many think the way you do and much less consider usada as a gold standard

Oh if you read it on google it must be true.

It IS a gold standard. That's not even debatable.

It is objectively one of the best drug testing procedures in the world. Not an opinion, that's a fact.

[Smash]

I think that article is criticizing the USA in general more than anything

"WADA also criticized the fact that in “more than half the sports, there was no in-competition testing carried out at all.”

does that not sound a bit iffy to u?

[MulaKO]

Oh if you read it on google it must be true.

It IS a gold standard. That's not even debatable.

It is objectively one of the best drug testing procedures in the world. Not an opinion, that's a fact.

I’m not attacking you or your credibility but reading from many posters and whatnot usada doesn’t seem to be as good as your stating
And just cause you’re saying it , must be truth ????

[Smash]

USADA was the testing protocol used in the UFC for over a decade and they caught a plethora of athletes during that time.

well that sounds like 100% scientific proof

[IronDanHamza]

well that sounds like 100% scientific proof

Scientific proof for what?

It's data, nothing more.