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  • #41
    Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
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    Not quite.
    Ryan is a bonafide superstar and has his fans. Broner was done the moment Maidana beat him up.
    Broner was being hyped as the next big PPV star knockung guys out at lower weights.

    His lack of discipline making weight and being focused did him in. Garcia has those same struggles. Ryan has more social media clout but has the same vices.
    Ryan will get caught again like the Tank fight then keep spiraling then make people think he’s refocused just like Broner.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Cool story View Post

      Again it goes both ways the fight more than anything proved boxing is corrupt and that Haney isn’t the next Floyd or the next big thing

      u see Haney practice keeping his right hand up
      cause it wasn’t really the osterine that cost him the fight
      they said they suspended Ryan for neglect of not checking his supplements cause it was so low that it shouldn’t of had affected the fight
      Bullshit man! He plead guilty because he did it and couldn’t prove he was innocent or didn’t do it. All that evidence he claimed to have were all lies.

      That was the reason why his attorney told him to enter a guilty plea. He knew he was guilty and couldn’t build a strong enough preponderance of evidence to prove his innocence.
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      • #43
        Originally posted by Cool story View Post

        Again it goes both ways the fight more than anything proved boxing is corrupt and that Haney isn’t the next Floyd or the next big thing

        u see Haney practice keeping his right hand up
        cause it wasn’t really the osterine that cost him the fight
        they said they suspended Ryan for neglect of not checking his supplements cause it was so low that it shouldn’t of had affected the fight
        That's the same case for 99% of fighters who have ever popped for PED's. It's always a trace amount because fighters who are using PED's are masking them in one way or another. So when they do get caught, it's always a trace. Just because he was popped for a trace doesn't mean he was only using trace amounts.

        And on top of that, this idea, that I see parroted often on here, of "Ostarine didn't win him the fight" or words to that effect, is absurd and non sensical. PED's increase your capabilities as an athlete, so, if he was using, then that is what gave him a massive (unfair) advantage in the fight.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Cool story View Post

          Again it goes both ways the fight more than anything proved boxing is corrupt and that Haney isn’t the next Floyd or the next big thing

          u see Haney practice keeping his right hand up
          cause it wasn’t really the osterine that cost him the fight
          they said they suspended Ryan for neglect of not checking his supplements cause it was so low that it shouldn’t of had affected the fight
          I've said in the past I thought that technical and tactical flaws were the primary causes of him getting clipped with all those left hooks, and his defensive irresponsibility and failure to anticipate those, especially considering that Garcia has never so much as dropped anyone with anything BUT left hooks, was inexcusable.

          Those supplements weren't admissible because they were opened, and could have been tampered with, and he didn't even try to submit a sealed sample. Those honestly shouldn't even be mentioned because that just makes him look more guilty.

          That being said, WE DO NOT KNOW how the fight would have gone if Ryan weren't on PEDs because the simple fact of the matter is that he had them in his system. Haney was exposed by Loma, not Garcia, and we won't know how that fight really goes until they fight on a legally even playing field, and at least for me, absent a heartfelt apology from Garcia and admission of fault, nothing anyone says can make Garcia less of a cheating scumbag.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
            Bullshit man! He plead guilty because he did it and couldn’t prove he was innocent or didn’t do it. All that evidence he claimed to have were all lies.

            That was the reason why his attorney told him to enter a guilty plea. He knew he was guilty and couldn’t build a strong enough preponderance of evidence to prove his innocence.
            It’s not bs tho Haney being marketed as the next Floyd took a big hit
            we clearly see he not a big star and he not that good

            you guys know deep down it wasn’t really that osterine
            It was Haney lack of fundamentals

            Haney would drop his right hand when he committed to the jab leaving him open for Ryan’s left

            Ryan. Always had power he even hurt Haney multiple times in the amateurs
            Haney overrated as much as Ryan

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            • #46
              Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post

              I've said in the past I thought that technical and tactical flaws were the primary causes of him getting clipped with all those left hooks, and his defensive irresponsibility and failure to anticipate those, especially considering that Garcia has never so much as dropped anyone with anything BUT left hooks, was inexcusable.

              Those supplements weren't admissible because they were opened, and could have been tampered with, and he didn't even try to submit a sealed sample. Those honestly shouldn't even be mentioned because that just makes him look more guilty.

              That being said, WE DO NOT KNOW how the fight would have gone if Ryan weren't on PEDs because the simple fact of the matter is that he had them in his system. Haney was exposed by Loma, not Garcia, and we won't know how that fight really goes until they fight on a legally even playing field, and at least for me, absent a heartfelt apology from Garcia and admission of fault, nothing anyone says can make Garcia less of a cheating scumbag.
              Haney was exposed n showed he could be moved off center with Ryan’s antics

              bet this time he fights safe cause he knows Ryan gonna crack him
              I bet if it’s close they gonna give it to Haney
              but Haney is severely overrated

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              • #47
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

                That's the same case for 99% of fighters who have ever popped for PED's. It's always a trace amount because fighters who are using PED's are masking them in one way or another. So when they do get caught, it's always a trace. Just because he was popped for a trace doesn't mean he was only using trace amounts.

                And on top of that, this idea, that I see parroted often on here, of "Ostarine didn't win him the fight" or words to that effect, is absurd and non sensical. PED's increase your capabilities as an athlete, so, if he was using, then that is what gave him a massive (unfair) advantage in the fight.
                But boxers have lost or gotten stopped while on steroids
                best example is undefeated Vargas vs Oscar

                Haney isn’t that good
                he gonna duck a lot of the brothas if he squeaks by Ramirez n Ryan
                he not fighting hitchins , Keyshawn or shakur
                maybe he will fight tank cause he so short
                but Haney gonna lose again
                he 50 /50 vs Ryan , teofimo n tank

                I doubt he beats hitchins boots Keyshawn or shakur

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Cool story View Post

                  But boxers have lost or gotten stopped while on steroids
                  best example is undefeated Vargas vs Oscar

                  Haney isn’t that good
                  he gonna duck a lot of the brothas if he squeaks by Ramirez n Ryan
                  he not fighting hitchins , Keyshawn or shakur
                  maybe he will fight tank cause he so short
                  but Haney gonna lose again
                  he 50 /50 vs Ryan , teofimo n tank

                  I doubt he beats hitchins boots Keyshawn or shakur
                  he already offered shakur a shot at undisputed when he was top dog at 135

                  haney was known for wanting to fight anyone

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Cool story View Post

                    Haney was exposed n showed he could be moved off center with Ryan’s antics

                    bet this time he fights safe cause he knows Ryan gonna crack him
                    I bet if it’s close they gonna give it to Haney
                    but Haney is severely overrated
                    Haney's entire style is predicated on fighting safe. I have been very vocal in the past saying that he's overrated, but you sound like you have an agenda that isn't fact based.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by QballLobo View Post

                      Broner was being hyped as the next big PPV star knockung guys out at lower weights.

                      His lack of discipline making weight and being focused did him in. Garcia has those same struggles. Ryan has more social media clout but has the same vices.
                      Ryan will get caught again like the Tank fight then keep spiraling then make people think he’s refocused just like Broner.
                      People forget, the networks were hyping AB as the future of the sport while he played the heel, he had talent but for the reasons you stated screwed it all up just like Ryan seems to be on the path to doing and Broner's first stop to doing that was at 147.

                      I kind of hope either Devin, Ryan, or both lose so it ruins their little scam they have going on for a big rematch.

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