Comments Thread For: Peace of his mind: Ryan Garcia says he has 'gotten back to reality'

[MulaKO]

Yeah, they should. If you are consistent then yes absolutely.

But you aren't really practicing what you preach because it's very obvious that you are on the defensive when it comes to Ryan for some reason.

Ryan Garcia popped multiple times, just like everyone else before him, and after him, he deserves to be crucified for that.

Sounds like to me that your insinuating something when all I’m doing is saying to treat everyone the same way

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

Well, it is part of the reason.

It's not the only reason, but it's still part of the reason.

No one in this thread has said it's the only reason.

The guy tested positive leaving his performance open for those claims so that's that. I do disagree with those who claim that Ostarine was the only reason why Devin was put on his butt and because I have seen Ryan KO most of his opponents with that same left hook, I believe that it was the puncher's chance he had and Haney not keeping his right hand high that caused those knock downs to occur...

[IronDanHamza]

The guy tested positive leaving his performance open for those claims so that's that. I do disagree with those who claim that Ostarine was the only reason why Devin was put on his butt and because I have seen Ryan KO most of his opponents with that same left hook, I believe that it was the puncher's chance he had and Haney not keeping his right hand high that caused those knock downs to occur...

Well as far as I'm aware no one has said it's the "only reason". No one's said it in this thread.

It's just one of the reasons. That's a fact.

Just because you can KO someone without assistance doesn't magically mean that the assistance of PED's had no factor, it does, objectively, that's not an opinion that's a fact.

Yes I'm sure Haney's flaws played a part in getting hit by those punches but it's irrelevant because we don't even know if he could land them and land them with the effect they had unassisted, thus the point.

[IronDanHamza]

Sounds like to me that your insinuating something when all I’m doing is saying to treat everyone the same way

Yeah but you're kind of not doing that, are you?

You're defending Ryan Garcia here in this thread, you can admit that, surely? It's not even thinly veiled.

[MulaKO]

Yeah but you're kind of not doing that, are you?

You're defending Ryan Garcia here in this thread, you can admit that, surely? It's not even thinly veiled.

I’ll put it to you this way ; if they give Ryan another suspension for a year , it won’t make any kind of difference in my life
But I expect the same thing for the next doper and the same subjective comments and actions

[IronDanHamza]

I’ll put it to you this way ; if they give Ryan another suspension for a year , it won’t make any kind of difference in my life
But I expect the same thing for the next doper and the same subjective comments and actions

Ryan Garcia won't get another suspension unless he tests positive again. He's already served his ban.

You do acknowledge that Ryan Garcia is a cheater though, right?

[MulaKO]

Ryan Garcia won't get another suspension unless he tests positive again. He's already served his ban.

You do acknowledge that Ryan Garcia is a cheater though, right?

Without doubt
He got caught didn’t he ???
Never did I say he wasn’t but let’s treat them all the same

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

Well as far as I'm aware no one has said it's the "only reason". No one's said it in this thread.

It's just one of the reasons. That's a fact.

Just because you can KO someone without assistance doesn't magically mean that the assistance of PED's had no factor, it does, objectively, that's not an opinion that's a fact.

Yes I'm sure Haney's flaws played a part in getting hit by those punches but it's irrelevant because we don't even know if he could land them and land them with the effect they had unassisted, thus the point.

I'm of the opinion that his flaws played the biggest part in getting hit by those left hooks, there's a reason why Devin has been working extra hard at blocking left hooks for the past few months. If you honestly don't know if Ryan could land his patented left hook without Ostarine in his body and hurt Devin, then you honestly don't believe that Ryan had a puncher's chance at winning the fight or at the very least hurting him...

Ryan has won about 85 percent of his fights with his left hook. His left hook is lightning fast and it can be described as a devastating left hook. If you aren't sure Ryan would be able to land that particular punch while Devin is trading with Ryan and leaving himself open to that left hook, well that's how you feel. I feel different as I've seen slower guys than Ryan land on Devin and stun him or wobble him.

Hopefully both men win their next fight so they can do it again. If they do happen to fight again, I'm of the opinion that Devin will avoid trading with Ryan and win a UD. We shall see for ourselves soon enough...

[IronDanHamza]

I'm of the opinion that his flaws played the biggest part in getting hit by those left hooks, there's a reason why Devin has been working extra hard at blocking left hooks for the past few months. If you honestly don't know if Ryan could land his patented left hook without Ostarine in his body and hurt Devin, then you honestly don't believe that Ryan had a puncher's chance at winning the fight or at the very least hurting him...

Nobody knows that. All we know is what he is capable of doing under the assistance of PEDs.

The fact he still has a punchers chance without assistance of PED's is totally irrelevant to that.

Ryan has won about 85 percent of his fights with his left hook. His left hook is lightning fast and it can be described as a devastating left hook. If you aren't sure Ryan would be able to land that particular punch while Devin is trading with Ryan and leaving himself open to that left hook, well that's how you feel. I feel different as I've seen slower guys than Ryan land on Devin and stun him or wobble him.

So?

That doesn't change the fact he was assisted vs Haney and played a part in both his ability to land those punches and hurt him with those punches due to that.

How you feel is irrelevant. All we know for a fact is what he can do under the assistance of PEDs.

Hopefully both men win their next fight so they can do it again. If they do happen to fight again, I'm of the opinion that Devin will avoid trading with Ryan and win a UD. We shall see for ourselves soon enough...

That would be great.

But even if Ryan were to KO him cold with a left hook in the first round it still won't change the fact what he did in the first fight was under the assistance of PEDs.

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

Nobody knows that. All we know is what he is capable of doing under the assistance of PEDs.

The fact he still has a punchers chance without assistance of PED's is totally irrelevant to that.



So?

That doesn't change the fact he was assisted vs Haney and played a part in both his ability to land those punches and hurt him with those punches due to that.

How you feel is irrelevant. All we know for a fact is what he can do under the assistance of PEDs.



That would be great.

But even if Ryan were to KO him cold with a left hook in the first round it still won't change the fact what he did in the first fight was under the assistance of PEDs.

If Ryan KOs Devin or puts him down in any of the rounds with a left hook and he tests clean, it proves what most believe. That Ryan's left hook can hurt everyone at 147 or below and and that his left hook gives him a puncher's chance at beating anyone at or below 147 without Ostarine.