Comments Thread For: Peace of his mind: Ryan Garcia says he has 'gotten back to reality'

[IronDanHamza]

None of the bolded are facts in Ryan's case though, it was never proven that he was taking peds at other times. He was tested other times and turned up clean, that's a fact. You can believe that he was taking peds prior to when he did test positive, but it would be just an opinion and not a fact.

As for Devin knowing or believing that Ryan can hit him and hurt him only under the assistance of peds, I would have to say that I don't believe that because Devin knows that he's been hit by smaller and slower fighters than Ryan. But if you honestly believe that Devin as a professional boxer wouldn't think that Ryan would be quicker and hit harder than the smaller guys that he was hit and hurt by, well, that leaves me perplexed that you would think that.

I didn't say he was or wasn't on anything at those times. We don't know.

What I said was just because he tested clean doesn't mean he was clean.


I didn't say what Devin knew or didn't know either. NOBODY knows what Garcia can do to Haney without the assistance of PEDs.

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

I didn't say he was or wasn't on anything at those times. We don't know.

What I said was just because he tested clean doesn't mean he was clean.


I didn't say what Devin knew or didn't know either. NOBODY knows what Garcia can do to Haney without the assistance of PEDs.

Using your logic it is safe to say that just because boxers test clean doesn't mean they are clean and that includes all boxers from favorites such as Virgil, Bud, Devin and the list goes on. Might as well say all boxers are on PEDS, but only a few have been caught.

We do know that Ryan has a lighting fast and powerful left hook and that about 85% of his victories are KOs due to his left hook, which means that Ryan had and will have a puncher's chance at beating Devin by KO or TKO or at the very least has a puncher's chance of hurting him and putting him on the canvas.

You think the reason Ryan was able to land his left hook at will was due to him testing positive for Ostarine. Cool! I happen to think Ryan was able to land his left hook because Devin failed to keep his right hand high while trading punches with Ryan when he should have been fighting from the outside and circling to Ryan's right.

We know Devin was able to out box Ryan easily while Ryan was on Ostarine, what changed? Did Ostarine magically disappear from his body rounds 1,7,9 and 11? Or did Haney just not fight smart them rounds?

[IronDanHamza]

Using your logic it is safe to say that just because boxers test clean doesn't mean they are clean and that includes all boxers from favorites such as Virgil, Bud, Devin and the list goes on. Might as well say all boxers are on PEDS, but only a few have been caught.

It's certainly possible. Nobody knows until they pop for something.

We do know that Ryan has a lighting fast and powerful left hook and that about 85% of his victories are KOs due to his left hook, which means that Ryan had and will have a puncher's chance at beating Devin by KO or TKO or at the very least has a puncher's chance of hurting him and putting him on the canvas.

Yes as established, I'm sure he has a chance without PEDs.

Doesn't mean a lick to the fact all we KNOW is what he can do to Haney WITH Peds. It's really not difficult, it's cut and dry.

You think the reason Ryan was able to land his left hook at will was due to him testing positive for Ostarine. Cool! I happen to think Ryan was able to land his left hook because Devin failed to keep his right hand high while trading punches with Ryan when he should have been fighting from the outside and circling to Ryan's right.

It didn't say I thought that. It doesn't matter what I think, or you think.

All that matters is what we KNOW, which is, what Garcia can do to Haney ON PEDs. That is all we KNOW. We don't KNOW anything other than that.

We know Devin was able to out box Ryan easily while Ryan was on Ostarine, what changed? Did Ostarine magically disappear from his body rounds 1,7,9 and 11? Or did Haney just not fight smart them rounds?

I think you think this is some kind of point, but, sadly, it's not.

Haney could have hypothetically won every round it still wouldn't change the fact that Garcia was under the assistance of PED's and anything he did, or does in that particular fight is under that assistance and we don't know what he'd do in that particular fight without them.

It's as simple as that.

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The only thing that has a modicum of truth is that the Haneys should have called off the fight the moment that Ryan Garcia came in weighing 4 lbs over the limit.

Which gave him an unfair head start, boost and advantage before the fight ever began. I hope that this moment serves as a cautionary tale for all fighters.

To never fight an opponent who refuses to make weight. It’s a red flag that they may be doping.

Nah Haney was even Saying Ryan wasn’t taking the fight serious that even Haney fans thought it was gonna be easy work I picked Haney to win too
but Haney a bigger fraud than i thought

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It's certainly possible. Nobody knows until they pop for something.



Yes as established, I'm sure he has a chance without PEDs.

Doesn't mean a lick to the fact all we KNOW is what he can do to Haney WITH Peds. It's really not difficult, it's cut and dry.



It didn't say I thought that. It doesn't matter what I think, or you think.

All that matters is what we KNOW, which is, what Garcia can do to Haney ON PEDs. That is all we KNOW. We don't KNOW anything other than that.



I think you think this is some kind of point, but, sadly, it's not.

Haney could have hypothetically won every round it still wouldn't change the fact that Garcia was under the assistance of PED's and anything he did, or does in that particular fight is under that assistance and we don't know what he'd do in that particular fight without them.

It's as simple as that.

It’s ok Haney was never that good
he gonna lose again
maybe he beats Ryan in a tough close fight in the rematch but Ryan exposed him

Haney in a way cheats the system all the time he was the biggest weight bully at 135 to 140

guess that’s why he rematching Ryan at 147 lol

[IronDanHamza]

It’s ok Haney was never that good
he gonna lose again
maybe he beats Ryan in a tough close fight in the rematch but Ryan exposed him

Haney in a way cheats the system all the time he was the biggest weight bully at 135 to 140

guess that’s why he rematching Ryan at 147 lol

I'm not a fan of Haney nor do I rate Haney.

Ryan exposed Haney, whilst on PEDs. That's all we know. I don't know why this is such a difficult concept to grasp.

Nothing that happens from this point on will ever change that fact about that fight.

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I'm not a fan of Haney nor do I rate Haney.

Ryan exposed Haney, whilst on PEDs. That's all we know. I don't know why this is such a difficult concept to grasp.

Nothing that happens from this point on will ever change that fact about that fight.

Again Ryan beat Haney cause of haney lack of skill
if Haney was more skilled he wouldn’t of got done like that.Plenty of guys been stopped or lost while on peds

[IronDanHamza]

Again Ryan beat Haney cause of haney lack of skill
if Haney was more skilled he wouldn’t of got done like that.Plenty of guys been stopped or lost while on peds

Yes, he did. WHILST ON PEDs.

I can't make that easier for you at this point.

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Yes, he did. WHILST ON PEDs.

I can't make that easier for you at this point.

Yeah meaning Haney skills was overrated as well

[IronDanHamza]

Yeah meaning Haney skills was overrated as well

Ok? Fantastic. What's your point?

Haney could be totally void of any skill, it still won't change the fact that whatever Garcia was able to do to him in that particular fight was under the assistance of PEDs.

How many times do I have to repeat the same thing, honestly? This isn't some cryptic stuff.

No matter what anyone wants to bring up; Haney's lack of skills, Haney's weak chin, Haney dropping his hands, the amount of Ostarine, the fact Garcia could potentially win without PEDs, the day of the week, the weather in spain, NONE OF THIS is of any relevance.

All we KNOW, about the fight those two fighters had, is what Ryan Garcia can do WHILST ON PEDs. We do not know anything else other than that.

This isn't difficult.