Comments Thread For: Peace of his mind: Ryan Garcia says he has 'gotten back to reality'

[TheProudLunatic]

Once again; More strawman arguments and deflecting by you so-called Ryan Garcia nut hugging fanboys. Devin Haney is not the issue here but Ryan Garcia is.

This is not a Devin Haney thread. It's a Ryan Garcia thread. If you want to discuss Devin Haney then let's do so in the appropriate topic. Haney is innocent.

Just have Ryan to fess up by admitting and acknowledging his transgressions. Tell him to take sole personal responsibility for his own actions and quit being coward.

The nerve of me to put your BFF under the same microscope.......

If that carny had a 1 week training camp, your boy and his crew would have been laid out

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

First, allow me to answer your questions; No. 1 should Vargas gone to prison for fighting Oscar on steroids and almost knocking him out during the first round? It all depends on the circumstances.

If he knowingly, willfully, deliberately and intentionally took steroids in order to cheat and gain an unfair advantage over Oscar. Then the answer to that question is an emphatic yes because he was proven guilty. His tests came back positive. So you can bet your bottom dollar I do.

No.2 Should Mosely have gone to prison for winning against Oscar while punching him in the face for 12 rounds after it was revealed that he was on peds? The answer to that question is no because there was no scientific evidence proving that he did.

All of his tests came back negative. His confession was not enough to incriminate him. He still had the presumption of innocence. It's like a man confessing to a crime that he committed but the DNA found at the crime scene does not match his DNA. So what would the investigators and the DA do in those type of situations? They would set him free.

No. 3, Do I believe Ryan had a puncher's chance of beating Devin or at least dropping him with his patented left hooks? The answer to that question is yes. However, that is not the issue. Therefore, it is not a mitigating circumstance. The bottom line is he popped dirty and deliberately cheated.

He knew exactly what he was doing, taking and putting in his system was illegal. It was the reason why he chose to plead guilty because he knows he is guilty as sin and his attorneys did also. They knew he did it intentionally. Which was the reason why they didn't offer a defense.

Lastly, please knock it off with the strawman arguments. I know that boxing is a violent blood sport. Which is the more reason why there should always be an even and level playing field.

It's also the reason why doping with a performance enhancing drug is so dangerous. The sport is already dangerous enough. It could potentially cause great bodily harm while subsequently and easily resulting in a loss of life afterwards.

You said that you believe that Ryan knowingly and deliberately chose to use SARMS. Thank you, because I agree. However, someone close to him needs to tell him that because it's obvious that he is yet still in denial.

He continues to smear and blame others for his mistakes instead of admitting, acknowledging and confessing them himself. That is what a true man of God would do.

I just want him to man up and own it by forgiving himself first and then asking Devin Haney for forgiveness.

Again, wanting to send a boxer to prison for testing positive for Ostarine is quite the stretch and laughable to be truthful. Had Ryan kicked Devin in the face, elbowed him or kneed him in the face while he was down, I would understand the reasoning. You want to take a fighter's entire purse and suspend him for 5 years for testing positive for Ostarine? That's cool too, but testing positive for a ped isn't a crime and the punishment shouldn't be the same or compared to that of someone who stabs or shoots an unarmed person.

If you can list the names of boxers who have died or have been seriously hurt due to an opponent testing positive for a ped, I'd be open to seeing the list. I'm almost positive that most serious injuries or deaths in boxing have not been due to ped use. Might as well send boxers to prison for intentional head butts, intentional low blows or hitting after the bell. Shoot, while we're add it, lets send Taylor to prison for the gruesome face she left on Serrano after head butting her. Aside from almost tearing her face in half, she might have been permanently blinded from her eye.

As for wanting Ryan to act like a true man of God, he won't because he's not a true Christian nor behaves like a true Christian. Ryan is not someone that we should expect righteousness from. Boxing is a barbaric sport where its combatants want to cause serious harm to their rivals. The Haney's were talking about wanting to see Ryan die in the ring. The sport attracts fans that want to see the fighters they dislike getting their brains bashed in.

It is what it is man and boxing is a sports business that has always been associated with ugliness andshady people that do shady things. From its boxers to its promoters to organization presidents. Don't like Ryan? Don't watch his fights because paying for his fights will only fill his pockets with money...

[champion4ever]

Again, wanting to send a boxer to prison for testing positive for Ostarine is quite the stretch and laughable to be truthful. Had Ryan kicked Devin in the face, elbowed him or kneed him in the face while he was down, I would understand the reasoning. You want to take a fighter's entire purse and suspend him for 5 years for testing positive for Ostarine? That's cool too, but testing positive for a ped isn't a crime and the punishment shouldn't be the same or compared to that of someone who stabs or shoots an unarmed person.

If you can list the names of boxers who have died or have been seriously hurt due to an opponent testing positive for a ped, I'd be open to seeing the list. I'm almost positive that most serious injuries or deaths in boxing have not been due to ped use. Might as well send boxers to prison for intentional head butts, intentional low blows or hitting after the bell. Shoot, while we're add it, lets send Taylor to prison for the gruesome face she left on Serrano after head butting her. Aside from almost tearing her face in half, she might have been permanently blinded from her eye.

As for wanting Ryan to act like a true man of God, he won't because he's not a true Christian nor behaves like a true Christian. Ryan is not someone that we should expect righteousness from. Boxing is a barbaric sport where its combatants want to cause serious harm to their rivals. The Haney's were talking about wanting to see Ryan die in the ring. The sport attracts fans that want to see the fighters they dislike getting their brains bashed in.

It is what it is man and boxing is a sports business that has always been associated with ugliness andshady people that do shady things. From its boxers to its promoters to organization presidents. Don't like Ryan? Don't watch his fights because paying for his fights will only fill his pockets with money...

We will never know what are the deep and profound effects performance enhancing drugs have on a boxer’s career until they are tested for them.

A great case study would be Devin Haney’s next performance against His opponent Jose Ramirez. If he gets KO;

Then we will know for sure that it was Ryan Garcia’s doping which ruined him.

How can you say that Ryan is not a true Christian as much as he talks about Jesus and the Holy Spirit?

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

We will never know what are the deep and profound effects performance enhancing drugs have on a boxer’s career until they are tested for them.

A great case study would be Devin Haney’s next performance against His opponent Jose Ramirez. If he gets KO;

Then we will know for sure that it was Ryan Garcia’s doping which ruined him.

How can you say that Ryan is not a true Christian as much as he talks about Jesus and the Holy Spirit?

One could argue that Devin has been fighting and getting wobbled by guys much smaller than him. Now that he's fighting guys that are actually his size, he'll be getting wobbled or knocked down at times. Unless you're of the opinion that there was no way anyone could put Devin down because he's proven to have an iron skull?

Any boxer can be knocked down or KO'd, Munguia is a current fighter who has proven that, unless you feel that Ginger ruined Munguia and that is what caused Munguia to get KO'd by a guy who only had 5 KO's in his professional career.. It almost seems that you are looking to find any excuse to say Ostarine ruined Devin in case Devin loses, maybe you feel or felt that Devin was unbeatable...Every fighter can lose and though I think Devin is a better boxer than Ryan and most in or around his division, I'd be silly to think that there ain't no way he can lose against Ramirez. I'm old enough to have lost lots of money on fights where I was sure my fighter would win. Forrest getting KO'd against Mayorga is an example.

Just because a man talks about Jesus does not make him a Christian, just as a man who talks about money does not make him rich. Jesus taught his disciples that "you shall know a tree by its fruit". To be a Christian one must behave and speak as a Christian would. The garbage that has come out of Ryan's mouth is not Christian like. The Holy Spirit lives in us, defiling one's body hurts the Holy Spirit.

He seems to be behaving himself lately and seems to be on a different path so maybe now he is dedicating himself to Christ. As Christian man myself, I hope he is now truly dedicating himself to the Lord..

[Cool story]

We will never know what are the deep and profound effects performance enhancing drugs have on a boxer’s career until they are tested for them.

A great case study would be Devin Haney’s next performance against His opponent Jose Ramirez. If he gets KO;

Then we will know for sure that it was Ryan Garcia’s doping which ruined him.

How can you say that Ryan is not a true Christian as much as he talks about Jesus and the Holy Spirit?

See that means Haney was never that good or had enough heart to beat Ryan if Oscar could of survived Vargas early why couldn’t Haney if he supposed tk be the next Floyd
cause Haney overrated too

[champion4ever]

One could argue that Devin has been fighting and getting wobbled by guys much smaller than him. Now that he's fighting guys that are actually his size, he'll be getting wobbled or knocked down at times. Unless you're of the opinion that there was no way anyone could put Devin down because he's proven to have an iron skull?

Any boxer can be knocked down or KO'd, Munguia is a current fighter who has proven that, unless you feel that Ginger ruined Munguia and that is what caused Munguia to get KO'd by a guy who only had 5 KO's in his professional career.. It almost seems that you are looking to find any excuse to say Ostarine ruined Devin in case Devin loses, maybe you feel or felt that Devin was unbeatable...Every fighter can lose and though I think Devin is a better boxer than Ryan and most in or around his division, I'd be silly to think that there ain't no way he can lose against Ramirez. I'm old enough to have lost lots of money on fights where I was sure my fighter would win. Forrest getting KO'd against Mayorga is an example.

Just because a man talks about Jesus does not make him a Christian, just as a man who talks about money does not make him rich. Jesus taught his disciples that "you shall know a tree by its fruit". To be a Christian one must behave and speak as a Christian would. The garbage that has come out of Ryan's mouth is not Christian like. The Holy Spirit lives in us, defiling one's body hurts the Holy Spirit.

He seems to be behaving himself lately and seems to be on a different path so maybe now he is dedicating himself to Christ. As Christian man myself, I hope he is now truly dedicating himself to the Lord..

So when did he ever fight someone his own size because according to you Ryan Garcia’s fanboys he is weight bully remember? Those were your words and not mine.

Now let’s examine their fight very closely. One can easily say that Devin won every round of that fight for the exception of the first round and the rounds he was dropped in.

Ryan Garcia moved for the majority of that fight without hardly throwing any punches and with Haney fighting off his front feet. Which made the fight very entertaining and and crowd pleasing.

Hell! Ryan even had to implement his variation of the back roll for crying out loud against Devin for Haney fighting so aggressively. Lastly, in terms of winning just rounds; Devin won the majority of them by a margin of 8-4

So when I did my final tabulation of the fight. I still had Haney winning the fight; Regardless of the knockdowns and a doped up Ryan Garcia by a score of 113-112.

So that tells me that without the roids; Devin would have kicked Garcia’s ass. Haney has never been hit or have gone down before in his entire career.

So just on that one fact alone. It raised all types of red flags for me. In addition, Garcia admitted that he deliberately came in 3 1/2 pounds over the weight limit.

Which raised even additional red flags for me. One can believe what they will but in my judgement; Had Ryan Garcia played by the same rules as Devin Haney then the results what have been entirely different.

Therefore, it was the Ostarine that gave Ryan that extra edge and advantage to helped put him over the top. If he didn’t taken them he would have easily lost that fight.

One can say what they will be the same coward that Ryan Garcia is but whoever says that Ostarine didn’t give him that extra boost is either lying or delusional.

If not then why in the devil did he take them for; Why? While I have a lot of respect for you as a poster but on this topic you are completely wrong and missing the big picture.

Doping is wrong in athletic competition and should be rightfully condemned. You fanboys wouldn’t have liked it had Devin Haney done that foul shit to Ryan Garcia now would you? You damn right you wouldn’t.

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

So when did he ever fight someone his own size because according to you Ryan Garcia’s fanboys he is weight bully remember? Those were your words and not mine.

Now let’s examine their fight very closely. One can easily say that Devin won every round of that fight for the exception of the first round and the rounds he was dropped in.

Ryan Garcia moved for the majority of that fight without hardly throwing any punches and with Haney fighting off his front feet. Which made the fight very entertaining and and crowd pleasing.

Hell! Ryan even had to implement his variation of the back roll for crying out loud against Devin for Haney fighting so aggressively. Lastly, in terms of winning just rounds; Devin won the majority of them by a margin of 8-4

So when I did my final tabulation of the fight. I still had Haney winning the fight; Regardless of the knockdowns and a doped up Ryan Garcia by a score of 113-112.

So that tells me that without the roids; Devin would have kicked Garcia’s ass. Haney has never been hit or have gone down before in his entire career.

So just on that one fact alone. It raised all types of red flags for me. In addition, Garcia admitted that he deliberately came in 3 1/2 pounds over the weight limit.

Which raised even additional red flags for me. One can believe what they will but in my judgement; Had Ryan Garcia played by the same rules as Devin Haney then the results what have been entirely different.

Therefore, it was the Ostarine that gave Ryan that extra edge and advantage to helped put him over the top. If he didn’t taken them he would have easily lost that fight.

One can say what they will be the same coward that Ryan Garcia is but whoever says that Ostarine didn’t give him that extra boost is either lying or delusional.

If not then why in the devil did he take them for; Why? While I have a lot of respect for you as a poster but on this topic you are completely wrong and missing the big picture.

Doping is wrong in athletic competition and should be rightfully condemned. You fanboys wouldn’t have liked it had Devin Haney done that foul shit to Ryan Garcia now would you? You damn right you wouldn’t.

Let me make it clear that I am not a Ryan fanboy and for the record, I am a bigger fan of Devin's boxing skills than of Ryan's. I've not once ever called Devin a weight bully, you can check my history and you won't find a single post of mine referring to Devin as a weight bully. It's a fact that Devin was bigger than the guys he's been fighting besides Ryan, but he made the required weight to fight at whatever weight he was fighting at and that is within the rules, so I'm not gonna call the man a weight bully.

Devin was clearly the better boxer in my opinion and was easily controlling the fight when he wasn't being careless. I'd say he was giving Ryan a boxing lesson. I also believe that had Devin simply stuck to boxing Ryan from the outside, he would have easily won the fight, Ostarine or no Ostarine! Shoot, Ostarine didn't magically disappear from Ryan's body when Devin was outboxing him, nor did Ostarine magically reappear in his body when Devin got careless. I'm of the opinion that Devin will always beat Ryan if he sticks to what he does best, but will lose to Ryan every time if he tries to sand in front and trade with Ryan.

You cannot deny that Devin was bigger in size during fight night against Loma and the likes, besides Ryan, therefore it stands to reason that Devin would handle Loma's punches better than Ryan's or the bigger guys he's gonna start fighting such as Ramirez, Boots(if he ends up fighting him) and the guys at 147 and up.

I respect you as well so don't take this the wrong way, but it is you that can be considered a fanboy because you think Devin is unbeatable and that he's immune to getting hurt or dropped. Whereas I believe Ryan cheated by taking Ostarine on purpose, although I believe he took it to try and lose weight in a hurry a few days before the fight, but he cheated nonetheless. I also am on record calling him manure for the foul words that come out of his mouth and I'm on record stating that I believe Devin is a better boxer than Ryan. How am I the fanboy?

So if one of us can be called a fanboy, it certainly isn't me man. I can put my feelings aside and give an unbiased opinion, but it seems as if you can't, when you're on record claiming that Devin cannot be hurt or dropped simply because he hasn't, even though he's been fighting guys that are smaller than him...

For the record, I believe Devin will easily win against Ramirez by staying on the outside and making it an ugly fight, but hey, the win is all that matters, not how you look winning. But, if Ramirez happens to catch Devin and put him on his butt, which is possible, I certainly won't claim that it was all due to Ryan testing positive for Ostarine and giving him a shellacking. It's boxing man, anything can happen upon that ring and you realize that after watching boxing for over 40 years and lacing on gloves for a couple of years...

I'm also on record stating that Ryan deserved to get punished for testing positive for Ostarine and as a big Sugar Shane fan, I was disappointed to know he was juicing....

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So when did he ever fight someone his own size because according to you Ryan Garcia’s fanboys he is weight bully remember? Those were your words and not mine.

Now let’s examine their fight very closely. One can easily say that Devin won every round of that fight for the exception of the first round and the rounds he was dropped in.

Ryan Garcia moved for the majority of that fight without hardly throwing any punches and with Haney fighting off his front feet. Which made the fight very entertaining and and crowd pleasing.

Hell! Ryan even had to implement his variation of the back roll for crying out loud against Devin for Haney fighting so aggressively. Lastly, in terms of winning just rounds; Devin won the majority of them by a margin of 8-4

So when I did my final tabulation of the fight. I still had Haney winning the fight; Regardless of the knockdowns and a doped up Ryan Garcia by a score of 113-112.

So that tells me that without the roids; Devin would have kicked Garcia’s ass. Haney has never been hit or have gone down before in his entire career.

So just on that one fact alone. It raised all types of red flags for me. In addition, Garcia admitted that he deliberately came in 3 1/2 pounds over the weight limit.

Which raised even additional red flags for me. One can believe what they will but in my judgement; Had Ryan Garcia played by the same rules as Devin Haney then the results what have been entirely different.

Therefore, it was the Ostarine that gave Ryan that extra edge and advantage to helped put him over the top. If he didn’t taken them he would have easily lost that fight.

One can say what they will be the same coward that Ryan Garcia is but whoever says that Ostarine didn’t give him that extra boost is either lying or delusional.

If not then why in the devil did he take them for; Why? While I have a lot of respect for you as a poster but on this topic you are completely wrong and missing the big picture.

Doping is wrong in athletic competition and should be rightfully condemned. You fanboys wouldn’t have liked it had Devin Haney done that foul shit to Ryan Garcia now would you? You damn right you wouldn’t.

Clearly Ryan didn’t take the fight serious he was pretty gassed in that fight adding even more proof Haney is overrated

plus Haney and his team could of cancelled the fight the day before when Ryan came in overweight but Haney n his fans thought Ryan was slacking as was gonna be easy pickings
that’s why yall mad Ryan at his worsts exposed that fraud Haney plus Haney seemed to let Ryan get j. His head in tha fight costing him yo be more aggressive than usual
so u see there’s nothing about Haney that indicates he the next Floyd
he not that skilled , he has a weak chin n no power and his defense is mediocre

[champion4ever]

Clearly Ryan didn’t take the fight serious he was pretty gassed in that fight adding even more proof Haney is overrated

plus Haney and his team could of cancelled the fight the day before when Ryan came in overweight but Haney n his fans thought Ryan was slacking as was gonna be easy pickings
that’s why yall mad Ryan at his worsts exposed that fraud Haney plus Haney seemed to let Ryan get j. His head in tha fight costing him yo be more aggressive than usual
so u see there’s nothing about Haney that indicates he the next Floyd
he not that skilled , he has a weak chin n no power and his defense is mediocre

Ryan Garcia didn’t expose shit! Don’t you get it? He popped dirty for doping man. Not once but five times. Therefore, he cheated or have you forgotten?

If it had not been for that Ostarine in his system the fight would have never been close. Devin would have broken his fuckin’ off in his ass man. That’s why Ryan cheated.

You seem to love drug cheats. Just so long they are your favor fighters. If Ryan Garcia was clean then I would agree with everything you’ve just said.

However, he wasn’t. He was dirty. Therefore, everything you’ve just said is utter bullshit!

[champion4ever]

Clearly Ryan didn’t take the fight serious he was pretty gassed in that fight adding even more proof Haney is overrated

plus Haney and his team could of cancelled the fight the day before when Ryan came in overweight but Haney n his fans thought Ryan was slacking as was gonna be easy pickings
that’s why yall mad Ryan at his worsts exposed that fraud Haney plus Haney seemed to let Ryan get j. His head in tha fight costing him yo be more aggressive than usual
so u see there’s nothing about Haney that indicates he the next Floyd
he not that skilled , he has a weak chin n no power and his defense is mediocre

The only thing that has a modicum of truth is that the Haneys should have called off the fight the moment that Ryan Garcia came in weighing 4 lbs over the limit.

Which gave him an unfair head start, boost and advantage before the fight ever began. I hope that this moment serves as a cautionary tale for all fighters.

To never fight an opponent who refuses to make weight. It’s a red flag that they may be doping.