Who had the better career at Welterweight: Pacquiao or Crawford?

[djtmal]

Christ, are you guys seriously still going with this? Can't you at least make it a bit more interesting? Let's talk about who the happier person of the three is.

Let's see, one's a middle aged man who posts his garish ***ellery on Instagram.

One whores himself to any YouTube channel going to insist on his greatness.

The other is a respected statesman with a long term, successful marriage.

Mmmm.

This was a poll thread that Manny won with ease days ago.

One guy Big Dunn can't accept it and is going on a Manny smear crusade.

[Coverdale]

This was a poll thread that Manny won with ease days ago.

One guy Big Dunn can't accept it and is going on a Manny smear crusade.

That's because The Big Dunn is an obsessive. Anything less than saying Mayweather was a perfect human, who conducted his career gallantly and flawlessly at every step, that there should be a gold statue of him in every major city and that children should be taught special classes about him is "hate".

You're not going to achieve anything by arguing round in circles with an obsessive. This thread has gained 18 pages since yesterday.

[djtmal]

That's because The Big Dunn is an obsessive. Anything less than saying Mayweather was a perfect human, who conducted his career gallantly and flawlessly at every step, that there should be a gold statue of him in every major city and that children should be taught special classes about him is "hate".

You're not going to achieve anything by arguing round in circles with an obsessive. This thread has gained 18 pages since yesterday.

Big Dunn is the weirdo's weirdo

The thing is, Crawford @ ww should be on par with Manny, but he #1. Don't fight enough #2. Don't sell

He doesn't rank Manny up there, but his accomplishments in comparison fall waaay short as evidenced in him getting only 6 votes in this thread.

When you suggest he fight some of these hungry lions like Ennis, he's saying he's looking for mega fights.

Honestly, he's not that guy and at his advanced age, I doubt if he will ever be that guy.

[Coverdale]

The thing is, Crawford @ ww should be on par with Manny, but he #1. Don't fight enough #2. Don't sell

He doesn't rank Manny up there, but his accomplishments in comparison fall waaay short as evidenced in him getting only 6 votes in this thread.

When you suggest he fight some of these hungry lions like Ennis, he's saying he's looking for mega fights.

Honestly, he's not that guy and at his advanced age, I doubt if he will ever be that guy.

I respect Crawford's achievements but he's been far too inactive. Statistically speaking you're obviously more likely to remain undefeated if you fight less frequently. Especially if most/all of those fights are in your home country.

Not really sure what The Big Dunn's problem with Pacquiao is. Manny's a pretty inoffensive individual, I can only imagine Dunn is resentful about being insulted by his fans back in the day and lacks the insight to see he spends too much time arguing on the internet.

[The Big Dunn]

That's because The Big Dunn is an obsessive. Anything less than saying Mayweather was a perfect human, who conducted his career gallantly and flawlessly at every step, that there should be a gold statue of him in every major city and that children should be taught special classes about him is "hate".

You're not going to achieve anything by arguing round in circles with an obsessive. This thread has gained 18 pages since yesterday.

I have never suggested anyone do that. Find a different lie to run with.

This thread isn’t about Floyd. It’s about Crawford and Manny.

[The Big Dunn]

This was a poll thread that Manny won with ease days ago.

One guy Big Dunn can't accept it and is going on a Manny smear crusade.

Where did I smear Manny? Telling the truth and using facts isn’t smearing.

[djtmal]

I respect Crawford's achievements but he's been far too inactive. Statistically speaking you're obviously more likely to remain undefeated if you fight less frequently. Especially if most/all of those fights are in your home country.

Not really sure what The Big Dunn's problem with Pacquiao is. Manny's a pretty inoffensive individual, I can only imagine Dunn is resentful about being insulted by his fans back in the day and lacks the insight to see he spends too much time arguing on the internet.

His problem is Manny. Doesn't have proof that Manny was on peds, so he has to downplay how he annihilated common Floyd opponents. Has no real explanation for Manny beating fighters Floyd clearly ducked.

[TheProudLunatic]

Pac gets too many passes and accepted excuses.
Everything he does is the best
Every opponent was at their best
Not a cherry in sight

FOH

I can only imagine the outrage if May were to need a cutoff and push the fight back a decade............................................ ......

[IronDanHamza]

Lol you do realise that 0.1% of 100 million boxing fans globally would be akin to 100,000 fans aka a small handful don't you retard?

Re Thurman, he either dropped/stopped 25/31 opponents he defeated with virtually all of the others being extremely durable fighter's who were only stopped in the final fight of their careers and ALSO went the distance with MANY other top Welterweights at the time. Therefore, Keith was unequivocally a puncher during his prime.

It's you that pulled a statistic out of thin air, dumbass.

Where are you getting 100 million from? Thin air again. And 100,000 people hypothetically saying Thurman is not a puncher is a small handful to you? That's over the entirety of active users on this site currently.

Thurman was only ranked #3 on Ring magazine's list due to inactivity and NOT ability. After all, you just said so yourself that he hadn't beaten a ranked fighter in 28 months which is the ONLY reason they ranked him below Crawford & Spence. Crawford's ranking was also elevated due to previously being undisputed champion at Light Welterweight. However, that DOESN'T mean they were 'better Welterweights' than Thurman at the time as prior to the Lopez tune-up, he dispatched of Garcia & Porter in back-to-back fights who were 2 of the STRONGEST fighter's in the division.

For example, Tiger Woods was universally considered the best golfer on the planet but slipped down the rankings due to a long injury layoff. However, when he returned, NOBODY considered him to be inferior to the current #1 simply because of his previous body of work. Ditto for Thurman who was previously a unified Welterweight champion and had also beaten 6 other champions in his weight class unlike Crawford & Spence.

However, only a dumbass like you would believe that Crawford beating Horn (who got a hometown decision against Pacquiao), Benavidez Jr (who achieved NOTHING at the weight) and glass-chinned Khan (who'd already been splattered 3 times) were more impressive!

I don't care who where when or why Thurman was ranked #3, he was ranked #3 like you've just admitted. That means he was not considered to be the best WW at the time and that is a fact.

And the fact you've just tried to compare Tiger Woods with Keith Thurman is comical

[djtmal]

Where did I smear Manny?

You accused him of being a drug cheat with no actual proof