Who had the better career at Welterweight: Pacquiao or Crawford?

[djtmal]

Crawford didn’t indicate he spoke to Floyd.

What he said was accurate. Since Cotto- cw- his only stoppage was a TKO over Matthysse. Unless I missed a ko win.

What he said was he didn't consider Manny for anything because he was a suspected ped user, put Floyd's name in it so you know who was talking to who, he has no proof of Manny doing anything illegal

Meanwhile Floyd was the masking agent user.

[djtmal]

What he said was accurate. Since Cotto- cw- his only stoppage was a TKO over Matthysse. Unless I missed a ko win.

Crawford proved he could ko a handicapped Spence, but he couldn't dent Madrimov how many fights that boy had like 10

[djtmal]

Like I said, Thurman did absolutely nothing after losing to Manny for longer than Spence has currently done nothing since the loss to Crawford.

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How many fights has Thurman had since Manny

How many fights has Spence had since Crawford

[HisExcellency]

The problem with this forum is that there's too many IDIOTS who blindly argue their case without looking at the facts or information in context.

In summary, Crawford is an ELITE fighter (and arguably p4p #1). However, his CV at both Welterweight and overall PALES in comparison to Pacquiao's who's arguably a top 5-10 ATG.

Mayweather is also a tremendous fighter and if someone wanted to argue that he's better than Pacquiao then I'd understand. Both are ATGs and it's a matter of opinion as to who's the superior fighter.

However, I'll always favour Pacquiao simply because he's the much smaller man (who started his career 22lbs LIGHTER than Floyd) and went on to conquer MORE weight classes (8 vs. 5) for LONGER (4 decades vs. 3).

End of debate!

[The Big Dunn]

What he said was he didn't consider Manny for anything because he was a suspected ped user, put Floyd's name in it so you know who was talking to who, he has no proof of Manny doing anything illegal

Meanwhile Floyd was the masking agent user.

Ok he is. The delay in accepting the cutoff made him
look guilty of PED use. The asking to take Toradol.

Most importantly, the back acne that you all said made JMM guilty. Manny had that too.

Looks guilty when using the same standard you guys use for Manny’s opponents.

[The Big Dunn]

How many fights has Thurman had since Manny

How many fights has Spence had since Crawford

Spence hasn’t fought since Crawford loss, July 29, 2023. As of today it’s been 21 months since then.

Keith lost to Manny July 20, 2019. He fought again Feb 20, 2022. That is over 30 months after.

Holding them to the same standard you and Hugh Grant stated, the Thurman win can’t be that good since he didn’t do anything after for a longer period than Spence hasn’t done anything.

Spence should be allowed the same 30 months as you give Keith.

[The Big Dunn]

Crawford proved he could ko a handicapped Spence, but he couldn't dent Madrimov how many fights that boy had like 10

Madrimov was at 154. Not 147.

[The Big Dunn]

Canelo is over the hill and Crawford is looking to cherrypick nothing more nothing less. This isn't prime p4p boxing.

If Crawford wins he will unified champion in his 4th division, going up 2 weight classes, beating a top 7 p4p boxer.

Yet another accomplishment Manny wouldn’t have. Yet another opponent Manny didn’t fight.

[hugh grant]

This makes absolutely no sense. Crawford didn’t start at ww. He unified LW and JWW.

Spence has done nothing for less time than Thurman did after he lost to Manny. So the Thurman win can’t be that great either, if we are using your same standard to evaluate both l.

Look, you are saying Spence is no5 pfp? A loss to Bud shouldnt change that. Spence should be able to knock out pfp no5 type performances now then, if he really was a pfp no5. But we know Spence was never no5 pfp.
Thurman had all the advantages over Pac, Thurman hasnt lose since fighting Pac.

[The Big Dunn]

Look, you are saying Spence is no5 pfp? A loss to Bud shouldnt change that. Spence should be able to knock out pfp no5 type performances now then, if he really was a pfp no5. But we know Spence was never no5 pfp.
Bud had all the advantages over Pac, Thurman hasnt lose since fighting Pac.

He was when Bud beat him is what I posted. Yes a loss does impact that. Same as Manny dropped p4p after losing to Floyd.

Of course he was a top p4p boxer. He just lost to a higher ranked one, again like Manny did to Floyd.

What top 5 p4p opponent did Manny ko at ww?

Which is why Manny ducked him imo to fight Thurman.

Thurman fought Mario Barrios and Brock Jarvis since he lost to Manny. He shouldn’t lose to either of these bums.

I forgot Thurman beat Barrios. No wonder Manny wants to fight him.
lol