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  • #61
    Originally posted by LarryMerchant'sBottle View Post

    But you didn't answer. How much do you believe Bud was paid under the table? We know that $2.7 million is a figure that was reported to the state, what's the different amount you believe he made? Honest question...

    As for $20 million being a ridiculous amount, why? There are some folks who believe that Bud made at least that much...
    time for your bottle

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Smash View Post

      time for your bottle
      lol... Jeez Smash...
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      • #63
        Originally posted by wrecksracer View Post
        they probably dangled a Canelo rematch if front of Bivol. You think they didn't? Which direction would you go? There's all the time in the world for a Benevidez fight. Next year. The year after. Does anybody owe Benevidez a favor? He's on the other side of the street, lol. How's that. PBC? I like Benavidez, but he's 3rd in line here.
        The bolded makes a lot of sense, considering that Ginger signed a 4 fight deal with Turki...
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        • #64
          Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post

          You again.

          Find me one article about fight income for ANY purse number that actually names their source, when it's not the promoter or fighter trying to influence things. Sources speak under conditions of anonymity. That's been par for the course for years. Suddenly it's a problem now, because Sulaiman, of all people, made a different claim? Holy transparent agenda, Batman.

          And you want to talk "market value"? Go look at the purses for champions for mandatories vs unifications vs undisputed. Maybe learn a little something. You one of those fools who thinks that the Saudis are in boxing to make money? Beterbiev avoided Bivol for years. He's suddenly going to sign for a few hundred thousand more? GTFO. There's literally zero details that line up here.

          If there was an 8 million offer (and here you're citing Eddie Hearn, that absolute pillar of honesty, but sure, I'll take it on face value), then that just proves that Sulaiman was lying about the other figure. Because that makes it even less likely that Bivol wouldn't just make the fight if it's actually a career high payday. But if it's 2 million less than he got for his last paydays, then, of course he'll go for the guy who has been paying him.

          Referencing a specific source and keeping it anon, is one thing, and does happen, but the articles from the 10m claim are literally saying ESTIMATES, not even claiming an inside source told them. It's literally a reporter making things up. You need to do better research.

          You know who is an actual credible source? The WBC president who actually gets a 3% cut of the purses for his belt.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Oracle01 View Post



            You know who is an actual credible source? The WBC president who actually gets a 3% cut of the purses for his belt.
            yes that was his cut but the wbc get no cut whatsoever of any bonus any ppv share or anything like that

            the figure that suliclown gives does not match up with any interpretation of the figure that hearn gives but they can both be true

            in fact they probably are both true most likely

            i found that hearn vid but sadly cant inbed it yet

            https://x.com/MikeCoppinger/status/1910043546524045815

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Oracle01 View Post


              Referencing a specific source and keeping it anon, is one thing, and does happen, but the articles from the 10m claim are literally saying ESTIMATES, not even claiming an inside source told them. It's literally a reporter making things up. You need to do better research.

              You know who is an actual credible source? The WBC president who actually gets a 3% cut of the purses for his belt.
              LMAO. You're hilarious. Sulaiman as a credible source. He's one of the least credible sources in all of boxing. He gets caught lying constantly. Leaving aside what should be obvious that the numbers are always just estimates unless an official purse gets disclosed (which is rare) and that the guarantee is different from the offer value due to the variability of PPV upsides, sponsorships, and other facets of a boxer's pay, Sulaiman knowing an accurate figure is a completely different thing from him actually telling the public that figure. Just because he has a figure doesn't mean he's going to use it. If you want to believe him, be my guest. You know that saying about "fool me thrice?". That's you, but it's been thousands of lies.
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              • #67
                Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post

                LMAO. You're hilarious. Sulaiman as a credible source. He's one of the least credible sources in all of boxing. He gets caught lying constantly. Leaving aside what should be obvious that the numbers are always just estimates unless an official purse gets disclosed (which is rare) and that the guarantee is different from the offer value due to the variability of PPV upsides, sponsorships, and other facets of a boxer's pay, Sulaiman knowing an accurate figure is a completely different thing from him actually telling the public that figure. Just because he has a figure doesn't mean he's going to use it. If you want to believe him, be my guest. You know that saying about "fool me thrice?". That's you, but it's been thousands of lies.
                What are all his lies, and what has he lied about? Has he lied about purse numbers before, or the reason he did not order Benavidez Canelo? Two totally different things. He gets a cut from the purses which means he see's them, so how is that not a credible source? It's literally one of the best possible.

                Just to finish you off here. Hearn basically confirmed the 8m offer is real. So you argued for nothing and you were wrong.

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                • #68
                  Not shrewd at all....it seems turki has a secret war with pbc if nobody has noticed barely any pbc fighters transitioned over to turki...

                  Turki, bivol, and canelo turki new toy is squeezing out benavidez.... benavidez needs new handlers at this point

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                  • #69
                    ok so basically hearn has said that bivol got paid more than that 8 mil benny offer for the beter fights lol

                    but how can that be true????

                    is hearn lying about bivol but telling the truth about the 8 mil offer?

                    or the other way around?

                    or some other mix of it?

                    or something else?

                    how did turki get this money to bivol when the bozz siliman told us bivol only got 2.7 mil for the fight?

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Smash View Post
                      ok so basically hearn has said that bivol got paid more than that 8 mil benny offer for the beter fights lol

                      but how can that be true????

                      is hearn lying about bivol but telling the truth about the 8 mil offer?

                      or the other way around?

                      or some other mix of it?

                      or something else?

                      how did turki get this money to bivol when the bozz siliman told us bivol only got 2.7 mil for the fight?
                      Sulaliar is mad because he knows Bivol got much more than the public 2.7 million. Does anyone really think Hearn would turn down more money ? The bag is still in Turki's hands.
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