Comments Thread For: Canelo Alvarez on David Benavidez: ?He?s accomplished nothing?

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

So you understand Canelo's reasoning, even though you concede its a fake excuse? lol. That makes no sense. He gave Charlo a pay day, BECAUSE he disrespected him, so he can't say the opposite with Benavidez.



Just accusing someone of lying with no reasoning behind it, is poor reasoning skills. Everyone knows how desperate David has been to get Canelo in the ring and take his belts, so its completely believable he would do it for 5m flat. He said it and so did his Dad and Manager. No reason to think they are all lying.

My original post to the first guy was not about Canelo having a good excuse to avoid Bena, it was in disagreement that trying to hurt someone physically is the best method to getting revenge, especially when the offended person has the power to change your life financially, that is why I brought Keyshawn and his similar approach to Teo's words. You keep making the point about Ginger because you obviously hate everything Canelo. I have not been a long time poster here nor do I post here as often to know if you are a "Team Canelo Hater" poster, so my apologies for assuming you are, in case you are not.

You believe Bena would be willing to accept only $5million and no PPV upend to fight Ginger, I don't. The fact he would be willing to do C-oke prior to an important career fight leads me to believe he has/had a C-oke habit and people that have C-oke habits tend to not be the most credible of people. I've been close friends with a few C-oke heads to know how credible they can be, maybe the C-oke heads you've been around can be trusted at their word alone and are people of high integrity..

[Jab jab boom]

Nelo fights are always in demand
Benny's ?????
Not so much.

Nelo has already put in his work
Benny has Plant

Nothing else matters

Hasn’t sold a mil ppvs in 7 years. For a so called face of boxing who gets paid what he gets paid, he’s been a bust for years now. Canelo put in his work because guys like Mosley at 40, mayweather at 36, Cotto at 35, ggg at 35/36/40 and Kovalev at 36 all were willing to fight a much younger Canelo. Without those names, his resume is much weaker. Yet here Canelo has been since 32 years old running away from the fight with Benavidez and not willing to do what those other guys did for him. Fans like you who condone this puss behavior and make excuses to defend it have no dignity as boxing fans. It’s kind of pathetic that you choose to put Canelo above what’s best for the sport.

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

Hasn’t sold a mil ppvs in 7 years. For a so called face of boxing who gets paid what he gets paid, he’s been a bust for years now. Canelo put in his work because guys like Mosley at 40, mayweather at 36, Cotto at 35, ggg at 35/36/40 and Kovalev at 36 all were willing to fight a much younger Canelo. Without those names, his resume is much weaker. Yet here Canelo has been since 32 years old running away from the fight with Benavidez and not willing to do what those other guys did for him. Fans like you who condone this puss behavior and make excuses to defend it have no dignity as boxing fans. It’s kind of pathetic that you choose to put Canelo above what’s best for the sport.

The days of frequent million+ PPV numbers are long long gone. Having said that, what would be best for the sport(in my opinion) would be if we had more boxers that could generate the number of fans that Ginger obviously has. It would be great if Bud, Shakur and a few others could sell at minimum, what Tank sells. I'm hopeful that young fighters coming up like Keyshawn and others can start bringing boxing back close to what it once was...

[FaustoGeraci]

So, you're sitting here pissing and moaning about an "old" Canelo not accepting a fight against a younger cokehead who may or may not make weight??? You're the fool here.

And Canelo's not my "idol" but he lives rent free in a lot of you all's heads around here. It makes no sense. If Canelo waits any longer and finally takes the DB fight and loses then, what type of credit will you give David??? A lot, because you're a butthurt nutthugger who only sees his side of things.

What credit should David get for beating an old Canelo that allowed himself to age out before he took the fight? Again, you'll think David's victory will be the best thing since sliced bread while excluding the actual facts. Loser.

And let's be clear here....David WILL come down to 168 to face Canelo because he ain't ish but a fat cokehead with no bargaining power whatsoever. He has to depend on losers like you to "demand" the fight....all to not buy it and ruin the business side of things.

I will ALWAYS bring up how bad the Turki card did last month....45k buys at a $25 going price and you bums still couldn't make it a big deal. Boxing fans cry and keep proving they aint ish when it's time to put their money where their mouth is.

Cry more.

I love how you keep bringing up a ******* test and labelling hinna "cokehead" so I guess Canelo is a juice head right? I also love that you're so delusional that you see yourself as a tier above being a "boxing fan". You're a Canelo cheerleader. You're not a boxing fan. Now you're saying poor old Canelo shouldn't have to fight DB meanwhile he's holding the belts hostage and picking on guys multiple weight classes below him. We all see who the fool is. You.

[FaustoGeraci]

My original post to the first guy was not about Canelo having a good excuse to avoid Bena, it was in disagreement that trying to hurt someone physically is the best method to getting revenge, especially when the offended person has the power to change your life financially, that is why I brought Keyshawn and his similar approach to Teo's words. You keep making the point about Ginger because you obviously hate everything Canelo. I have not been a long time poster here nor do I post here as often to know if you are a "Team Canelo Hater" poster, so my apologies for assuming you are, in case you are not.

You believe Bena would be willing to accept only $5million and no PPV upend to fight Ginger, I don't. The fact he would be willing to do C-oke prior to an important career fight leads me to believe he has/had a C-oke habit and people that have C-oke habits tend to not be the most credible of people. I've been close friends with a few C-oke heads to know how credible they can be, maybe the C-oke heads you've been around can be trusted at their word alone and are people of high integrity..

So how credible are juice head cheaters like Canelo you loser? Benavidez did coke 7 years ago and you wrote 2 paragraphs about it. You don't have friends you're a loser.

[FaustoGeraci]

I think the situation between Canelo Alvarez and David Benavidez is similar to 'Ricky Hatton and Junior Witter. Many people in the boxing community, are behaving like Canelo Alvarez needs David Benavidez, and that this matchup is Alvarez's only big fight opportunity'. Just like Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury, in reality fighters at the level of prestige of Canelo Alvarez don't need to fight David Benavidez'.

Would David Benavidez even be one of Canelo Alvarez's biggest wins on his resume? No 'Shane Mosley, Miguel Cotto, Gennady Golovkin, Erislandy Lara, those fights are all Alvarez's biggest and most impressive wins. They are all better fighters than David Benavidez'.

Even currently right now as we speak? I am sure Canelo Alvarez would be way more enthusiastic and motivated to rematch Dmitry Bivol II at 175 pounds 'If he wins his trilogy fight vs Artur Beterbiev III. I even think there is a potential that Canelo Alvarez could fight Artur Beterbiev in the near future'.

Note: David Benavidez is not currently a Super Middle Weight fighter 'And he has not be able to make the 168 pound weight limit since 2023. If the Benavidez vs Alvarez fight is made at 168 pounds, and Alvarez makes a mandatory defense against him. Then there is a high likely-hood that Benavidez would have already lost the fight in training camp'.

Like I stated in my first post stylistically, David Benavidez is not only a fighter straight up Canelo Alvarez's street i.e. not a very high skill level, defense is nothing special, and movement is limited. History has shown us, that specifically fighters need to be more than just aggressive and game to beat Canelo Alvarez. I am adamant that Benavidez is not good enough in the areas of boxing, which are needed to win rounds consistently vs Canelo Alvarez even outside of his peak as a fighter'.

To conclude: I suppose at some point if somehow David Benavidez was able to win a actual World title at 175 pounds 'Then the fight between Benavidez and Alvarez would happen at 175 pounds. I don't think the fight should happen at 168 pounds, as David Benavidez is most likely dead at the weight now. Which is not Canelo Alvarez's fault, Benavidez is suffering the consequences of extensively weight draining himself and promoting himself as a monster fighter'.

David Benavidez has had two fights at 175 pounds 'Benavidez has landed most of all his best punchers on his opponents, yet he has still been unable to deck his opponents or win via a knockout'.

I think it is certain areas of the boxing media who are overrating completely David Benavidez 'He is a World level fighter, with a very easy style to promote. But anybody that knows boxing, and who does not have any personal agenda against Canelo Alvarez? Knows that he is a by far better fighter than David Benavidez, definitively a level above of him at is absolute peak, and in my opinion Canelo Alvarez is still the superior fighter present day' etc.

"But anybody that knows boxing, and who does not have any personal agenda against Canelo Alvarez? Knows that he is a by far better fighter than David Benavidez,"

Except Canelo and his trainer. Or else they would have taken the bigger payday multiple times. The fact you said Canelo's Mosley and Cotto wins would be better shows you're absolutely clueless

[Jab jab boom]

The days of frequent million+ PPV numbers are long long gone. Having said that, what would be best for the sport(in my opinion) would be if we had more boxers that could generate the number of fans that Ginger obviously has. It would be great if Bud, Shakur and a few others could sell at minimum, what Tank sells. I'm hopeful that young fighters coming up like Keyshawn and others can start bringing boxing back close to what it once was...

Those days aren’t long gone, they just need to make fights that people want to see. Tank vs Ryan sold a million just last year. Canelo would have sold a million gs Benavidez and would vs Crawford. He’ll never do that with the fighters he’s been picking.

[QballLobo]

Canelo is right. Top guys don’t have fights go to purse bids and take the lower split. Benavidez isn’t a boss, he’s an employee.

He’s a good fighter. But he has made himself a high risk low reward fighter for the cash cow in the last part of his career. Juice isn’t worth the squeeze. When even Turki, a guy who doesn’t care about making a profit on fights, says no to you that should say something to Benavidez and his team.

[MeanestNiceGuy]

I love how you keep bringing up a ******* test and labelling hinna "cokehead" so I guess Canelo is a juice head right? I also love that you're so delusional that you see yourself as a tier above being a "boxing fan". You're a Canelo cheerleader. You're not a boxing fan. Now you're saying poor old Canelo shouldn't have to fight DB meanwhile he's holding the belts hostage and picking on guys multiple weight classes below him. We all see who the fool is. You.

You know I'm right on this one. Have you no shame??? You're a grown man (presumably) who yells and rants about one guy being a coward because he wont fight a guy who twice ruined his chances at greatness at 168....and he was champ BOTH times.

You still can't explain that.

I've been a boxing fans for years and had to endure the grueling Mayweather/Pacquiao "negotiations" era of the sport. People yelled (through their keyboards) about Floyd being "scared" and calling him all types of names (like a child) while hoping he'd fight Pac. It made zero sense but endless nights were wasted in their attempts to bait a fight into happening.

It's al for nothing. Get out of the house and touch some grass, dude. It's more to life than calling a multimillionaire and 4-division champion a "duck" and hoping he'll be impacted by it. You're wasting time here.



Cry more, though.

[MeanestNiceGuy]

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He can’t get his title shot because your idol is holding all the belts hostage AND is a coward. That’s how.
David does not have a legacy because there are no belts to fight for. Guess who is holding on to them for dear life while fighting Charlo, Scull, Munguia, Berlanga, Crawford etc.

Pretty sure after Crawford, Canelo will most likely Julio Caesar Chavez Jr again because it’s a mouthwatering all-Mexican clash. Rumor has it that Maidana is making a comeback. That’s a great fight for Canelo. I bet.

Pfffff!!!!

You're butchering your own argument here.

Canelo would've never held the belts "hostage" had your fat, cokehead hero kept the WBC belt. Must I remind you, he lost his belt twice....once to coke and once to missing weight. If being champion were that important, then David would've taken his career more seriously, but that's a lot to ask nowadays I guess.

You can't be this inept but I forgot we're on a NSB forum.

Enjoy your Sunday.