TBud: Manny Stopped Using Steroids and Stopped Getting Knockouts

[The Big Dunn]

look at this guy... so floyd is a weight bully then?? yall said floyd is a small guy, always in shape even when he's not fighting. always in the gym working on his craft, etc.

Please show how any statement or opinion of a Floyd fan impacts his actual health.

[The Big Dunn]

he fought maidana at 147 before fighting Manny at 147... and y'all said floyd is never above 150 on fight night.. are you telling me that Floyd balloons up to 170 when he's not fighting?

Show how a Floyd fans opinion on his weight impacts his actual health.

[The Big Dunn]

I think you're being deliberately intellectually dishonest here. We have an extensive amount to data to know what Floyd weighs which is 150 lbs and the same amount of data to know that he doesn't cut weight. To pretend we don't to try and justify the non-sensical idea that Floyd was severely dehydrated to the point of needing a 750ml IV is just dishonest, at best.

The situation cannot be justified logically. What is it that we're suggesting here? That out of no where Floyd had to cut 10-20 lbs on fight week and magically for the first time ever was coming down from 170 lbs and walks around even heavier? It's preposterous.

If Pacquaio was in an identical scenario I'm quite sure the fingers would be pointed directly at what it looks like; Hiding PED use.

No. I’m simply saying that we need to know what he weighed before the Manny fight.

Yes we do know the past. Weight isn’t a consistent. He could weight 150 for 10 years, doesn’t mean he weighs 150 now.

He must’ve provided enough evidence that he got the TUE.

[IceTrayDaGang]

Please show how any statement or opinion of a Floyd fan impacts his actual health.

floyd doesn't drink or do drugs. Floyd is always in the gym working on his craft. I mean for years, that;s all we would hear from y'all.

now yall is saying Floyd walks around at 170??

[IronDanHamza]

No. I’m simply saying that we need to know what he weighed before the Manny fight.

Yes we do know the past. Weight isn’t a consistent. He could weight 150 for 10 years, doesn’t mean he weighs 150 now.

We do know. Pretending we don't know is being overtly and deliberately dishonest.

He was 150.5 for the 30 day weigh in before the Pacquao fight. So, 30 days out he was 150.5 lbs.

We know he weighed 149 for the 30 day weigh in vs Guererro, 150 in the ring vs Canelo, then 148 in the ring vs Maidana 1 and 150 for the 30 day weigh in vs Maidana 2. We KNOW his weight.

So 4 fights in a row we know he was anywhere between 148-150 and then for Pacquaio, far and beyond the biggest fight of his career and probably the biggest fight in the history of the sport, we don't know his weight and we're going to act like he had to suddenly cut substantial amounts of weight to the point of severe dehydration even though we KNOW he was 150.5 30 days out? It's a silly argument and goes against a plethora of data.

It's clutching at straws on steroids at this point. There is not one reason Floyd would need an IV of that nature. None, zero.

He must’ve provided enough evidence that he got the TUE.

Well, not really because he didn't even request the TUE until after the fact and was granted it 3 weeks later, which is not allowed. He didn't inform the NSAC commission, which is not allowed. And he administered the IV in his house, which is not allowed. In fact, USADA are not even allowed to grant a TUE in Las Vegas in general, so I don't know why that was allowed either.

The whole thing is both extremely shady and extremely suspect and it all points to one thing.

[IceTrayDaGang]

Show how a Floyd fans opinion on his weight impacts his actual health.

how does a fighter like Floyd who even went and hired ariza, needed IV for dehydration from cutting weight?

[hugh grant]

He sure didn’t show it in the ring against Floyd.

The sport is called boxing. Floyd is far more skilled and talented at boxing than Manny.

Manny punched a lot. Until he fought great boxers like Floyd and JMM.

Well, he arguably best floyd with a bad shoulder, so probably proved pac s a better fighter. Being champ in 8 weight classes probably show it too as well as having longer career

[TheProudLunatic]

Floyd had every advantage against pac, home advantage, size advantage, less wear and tear with only 46 fights. Why was floyd trying to hold fight up more with osd testing too, nobody who fought pac had ever demanded that, so floyd is even trying get an advantage over any pac opponent too?

1) "Home" advantage.
Which is......

2) "Size" advantage
Aw.....Then Pac should not have fought May

3) "Less wear and tear"
Aw....May fought smarter, not harder. Would have kept his 0 if he had Pac's flimsy resume.

4) The real question you Pac Boi's REFUSE to ask/answer is -
"Why did Pac NEED a cutoff ?!?!?"

5) "No one ever made Pac roll up his sleeve ..........."
And ?!?!?

[TheProudLunatic]

Well, he arguably best floyd with a bad shoulder,

[Roadblock]

how does a fighter like Floyd who even went and hired ariza, needed IV for dehydration from cutting weight?

I explained to you already even gave you the research links, you went fkn mute, and then start the same BS now like you didnt learn anything, you didnt even look you moron, the goal of life is to find truth in everything and your dumb ass wont realize that until your on your death bed, youre as dumb as rocks as try to stay that way, good on you dick head.