TBud: Manny Stopped Using Steroids and Stopped Getting Knockouts

[HisExcellency]

FREDDIE ROACH ADMITS FLOYD MAYWEATHER IS THE KING OF THIS ERA; EXPLAINS WHY HE'S OVER PACQUIAO

I think roach has a better idea of where manny ranks behind Floyd than some random telling the forum what to believe.

Lol he specifically said because he's undefeated several times which ISN'T surprising given that he was the Vegas cash cow and always received favourable decisions (in addition to cherry-picking - ditto for his successor Canelo). Anyhow, I'm a fan of both fighter's but genuinely believe that Pacquiao is the GREATER fighter simply because he started off as the much smaller man (by 22lbs) and went on to conquer MORE weight classes (8 vs. 5) for LONGER (4 decades vs. 3).

Nothing will ever shift my opinion from that position but if somebody were to argue that Mayweather is the better fighter I'd RESPECT their decision because unlike you, I DON'T have a dog in this fight but simply call it like I see it!

Anyhow, a little present for you...enjoy

[HisExcellency]

Crawford is one of my favourite fighter's and one of the few boxers who articulates himself well and I enjoy listening to. However, his bitterness and anger towards Pacquiao is TOTALLY unwarranted (and most likely sour gr@pes from their superfight NOT materialising and living under his shadow at Top Rank). He's also had a lot of **** to say recently about Tank Davis too.

Hope he sorts himself out because he's quickly LOSING his class!

[MalevolentBite]

Lol if Manny beat a 'faded' Mosley then Floyd also beat a faded Pacquiao who was 36yo and had already been KO'd by Marquez. Also, Ugas only beat Pacquiao in his RETIREMENT fight aged 42yo lol. You can't have it both ways! Anyhow, he holds 2 victories (should really be 3) over Bradley, beat Thurman, Mosley, Broner, Clottey etc. all CONVINCINGLY along the way.

Anyhow, I've watched several interviews of him in the past and it's clear he FAVORS black fighter's (even if they're inferior) as opposed to Ali, Tyson, Mayweather & Holyfield who are much more objective.

Then take away the faded Mosley win and I will take away the L to Ugas.

1-2 with Bradley
0-1 Mayweather
1-0 Thurman

Manny didn't beat that many ( top black fighters) so two lol.

broner and clottey are not top but ok. Broner was on the decline way before fighting Manny. Thurman win was actually pretty close.

[HisExcellency]

Then take away the faded Mosley win and I will take away the L to Ugas.

1-2 with Bradley
0-1 Mayweather
1-0 Thurman

Manny didn't beat that many ( top black fighters) so two lol.

broner and clottey are not top but ok. Broner was on the decline way before fighting Manny. Thurman win was actually pretty close.

Lol way to whittle down the man's achievements to practically NOTHING! I just listed 5 black fighter's he beat CONVINCINGLY 2 of whom were undefeated at the time. Also, if you're going to play that game, Mayweather also beat DLH (34yo - 4 losses), Mosley (38yo - 5 losses), Pacquiao (36yo - 5 losses) & Marquez (36yo - 4 losses) when they were all at the END of their careers...see why he's the KING of cherry-picking (btw he did the complete opposite with Canelo and beat him when he was still wearing diapers)!?

[djtmal]

That fact you had to stay this is our point. It will always be Manny! It will always be part of his legacy like Aaron Pryor situation( who's one of my favorites) or Barry Bonds who never failed an offical MLB steroid test ether. You can like Manny. It's no shame in that. That goes for the rest of the people who actually got caught.

Floyd is the more suspect fighter imo

[SouthpawRight]

Lol he specifically said because he's undefeated several times which ISN'T surprising given that he was the Vegas cash cow and always received favourable decisions (in addition to cherry-picking - ditto for his successor Canelo). Anyhow, I'm a fan of both fighter's but genuinely believe that Pacquiao is the GREATER fighter simply because he started off as the much smaller man (by 22lbs) and went on to conquer MORE weight classes (8 vs. 5) for LONGER (4 decades vs. 3).

Nothing will ever shift my opinion from that position but if somebody were to argue that Mayweather is the better fighter I'd RESPECT their decision because unlike you, I DON'T have a dog in this fight but simply call it like I see it!

Floyd pulled ahead when he 10-2’d manny

manny was unable to close the gap instead going on a run of Vargas-Horn-Lucas-Broner. Horn ends up beating him too

Anyhow, a little present for you...enjoy

you realize that opinion does not contradict what Roach officially stated about Floyd being better than manny

HisExcellency

[SouthpawRight]

Lol way to whittle down the man's achievements to practically NOTHING! I just listed 5 black fighter's he beat CONVINCINGLY 2 of whom were undefeated at the time. Also, if you're going to play that game, Mayweather also beat DLH (34yo - 4 losses), Mosley (38yo - 5 losses), Pacquiao (36yo - 5 losses) & Marquez (36yo - 4 losses) when they were all at the END of their careers...see why he's the KING of cherry-picking (btw he did the complete opposite with Canelo and beat him when he was still wearing diapers)!?

Floyd beat those guys before manny did

says a lot about manny’s matchmaking



HisExcellency
your logic continuously fallible

[eco1]

Translation:

If Manny was 'murican black he would be God. Meh

[MalevolentBite]

Lol way to whittle down the man's achievements to practically NOTHING! I just listed 5 black fighter's he beat CONVINCINGLY 2 of whom were undefeated at the time. Also, if you're going to play that game, Mayweather also beat DLH (34yo - 4 losses), Mosley (38yo - 5 losses), Pacquiao (36yo - 5 losses) & Marquez (36yo - 4 losses) when they were all at the END of their careers...see why he's the KING of cherry-picking (btw he did the complete opposite with Canelo and beat him when he was still wearing diapers)!?

This isn't or wasn't my argument. You made it a race thing. Nobody is or was mad of Manny for beating faded broner, clottey, fadded Mosley or tim Bradley. That makes no sense. Because you want to make this a race thing.

[MalevolentBite]

Floyd beat those guys before manny did

says a lot about manny’s matchmaking




your logic continuously fallible

I dont get his point. He's coming off as a racist. He was the first person to bring up race.