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  • SouthpawRight
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    #141
    Originally posted by MalevolentBite

    I dont get his point. He's coming off as a racist. He was the first person to bring up race.
    if anything manny being Asian was good for him

    there’s stardom in being the first Asian mainstream boxing star

    Originally posted by HisExcellency

    Lmao he didn't beat Marquez (or Cotto who was also shot) before Pacman. Also, the 2 are not comparable at all because Mayweather had been fighting at Welterweight since 2006 whereas Pacquiao only made his debut in 2009 so of course he was going to be fighting other top Welterweights after Floyd.

    Face the FACTS, Mayweather has faced almost ALL of the biggest names on his CV at the END of their careers (and with good reason)...

    DLH 34yo - 4 losses (SD win - imagine if he was in his prime)
    Mosley 38yo - 5 losses (nearly sent Floyd to the moon - imagine if he was in his prime)
    Marquez 36yo - 4 losses
    Pacquiao 36yo - 5 losses (most avoided man on the planet in his prime and for GOOD reason)
    Canelo 23yo V1RG!N (compare the version who took 3-4 rounds off Floyd with the version that beat GGG)
    Cotto, Maidana & Berto were all post 30yo with multiple losses too (Maidana landed almost exactly the same number of punches in the first fight)

    WHO has he beaten in their PRIME besides average Hatton who was stepping up in weight (even Judah had 3 losses to his name)?!

    In comparison, Pacman has taken the V1RGIN!TY of Bradley (2 should be 3 times), Thurman & Cotto (Margarito definitely CHEATED).



    there he goes again changing the subject like always after being exposed

    manny faced lesser versions of their shared opponents

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    • HisExcellency
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      #142
      Originally posted by SouthpawRight
      if anything manny being Asian was good for him

      there’s stardom in being the first Asian mainstream boxing star



      there he goes again changing the subject like always after being exposed

      manny faced lesser versions of their shared opponents
      Except he DIDN'T e.g Marquez & Cotto - I guess you must've missed that part!

      Now answer my question, WHO exactly has Floyd beaten in their prime besides Hatton (lol) stepping up in weight. Meanwhile, Pacman has popped the cherries of Bradley (2/3 times), Thurman & Cotto?

      Face it, this fact alone plus the fact that he started his career 22lbs lighter, conquered more weight classes & divisions makes him unequivocally the superior fighter!

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        #143
        Lol Mayweather is the cherryPICKER whereas Pacquiao is the cherryPOPPER!

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          #144
          Originally posted by HisExcellency

          Except he DIDN'T e.g Marquez & Cotto - I guess you must've missed that part!

          Now answer my question, WHO exactly has Floyd beaten in their prime besides Hatton (lol) stepping up in weight. Meanwhile, Pacman has popped the cherries of Bradley (2/3 times), Thurman & Cotto?

          Face it, this fact alone plus the fact that he started his career 22lbs lighter, conquered more weight classes & divisions makes him unequivocally the superior fighter!

          it was you, not I you foolishly brought up

          DLH (34yo - 4 losses), Mosley (38yo - 5 losses), Pacquiao (36yo - 5 losses) & Marquez (36yo - 4 losses)

          manny faced worn lesser versions of them
          Originally posted by HisExcellency
          Lol Mayweather is the cherryPICKER whereas Pacquiao is the cherryPOPPER!
          manny became super picky in this run

          Vargas-Horn-Lucas-Broner


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            #145
            Originally posted by HisExcellency

            You missed the point...I said Bud's repressed anger towards Pacquiao goes hand in hand with him always picking black fighter's above other's more often than not. I've seen him do this several times before. In comparison, Mayweather, Ali, Tyson & Holyfield are always much more impartial. That was my point.
            You are making assumptions just like Terrance and mannys steroids claim. Thats my point.

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              #146
              Originally posted by MalevolentBite

              You are making assumptions just like Terrance and mannys steroids claim. Thats my point.
              Except I'm NOT...this is literally the 3rd time I've heard him say the same sort of thing so there's definitely a pattern. It's fine, some people have a bias towards their own race like Crawford whereas others are much more open minded. I respect the LATTER type infinitely more. I'm just calling it like I see it no hate.

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                #147
                Originally posted by SouthpawRight
                it was you, not I you foolishly brought up

                DLH (34yo - 4 losses), Mosley (38yo - 5 losses), Pacquiao (36yo - 5 losses) & Marquez (36yo - 4 losses)

                manny faced worn lesser versions of them
                manny became super picky in this run

                Vargas-Horn-Lucas-Broner

                Question answered...ZILCH!

                I'll give you one FINAL reason why I think Pacquiao's better than Floyd...do you agree that the people in power in society e.g. politicians, wealthy businessmen & celebrities tend to receive PREFERENTIAL treatment (not always but more often than not) compared to the average person?

                Guess what? Floyd was THAT guy for most of his career i.e. the face of boxing so don't tell me that he didn't receive favouritism from the judges and the match officials. In fact, Canelo is almost as bad except the judges decided NOT to completely rob Bivol by some miracle in their fight. However, he offset this by getting a laughable DRAW on one of the scorecards against Mayweather in a 'passing of the torch'.

                Finally, Pacquiao was 37-40yo when he fought Horn (29yo), Vargas (27yo), Thurman (30yo) & Broner (29yo). I DIDN'T see Floyd taking those kind of risks!

                Last edited by HisExcellency; 03-29-2025, 01:49 PM.

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                  #148
                  Originally posted by HisExcellency

                  Question answered...ZILCH!

                  I'll give you one FINAL reason why I think Pacquiao's better than Floyd...do you agree that the people in power in society e.g. politicians, wealthy businessmen & celebrities tend to receive PREFERENTIAL treatment (not always but more often than not) compared to the average person?

                  Guess what? Floyd was THAT guy for most of his career i.e. the face of boxing so don't tell me that he didn't receive favouritism from the judges and the match officials. In fact, Canelo is almost as bad except the judges decided NOT to completely rob Bivol by some miracle in their fight. However, he offset this by getting a laughable DRAW on one of the scorecards against Mayweather in a 'passing of the torch'.

                  Finally, Pacquiao was 37-40yo when he fought Horn (29yo), Vargas (27yo), Thurman (30yo) & Broner (29yo). I DIDN'T see Floyd taking those kind of risks!

                  Floyd was the better fighter so he got a-side benefits







                  An atg taking risks with Vargas Horn Lucas Broner

                  Floyd was 38 when he 10-2’d manny

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                    #149
                    Originally posted by SouthpawRight
                    Floyd was the better fighter so he got a-side benefits







                    An atg taking risks with Vargas Horn Lucas Broner

                    Floyd was 38 when he 10-2’d manny
                    NOPE...Floyd was the 'A' side amongst the 'A' siders since he was the face of boxing and sold the most PPVs so his undefeated record needed to be PROTECTED!

                    Btw Horn & Thurman were undefeated at the time whereas Vargas had 1 loss and Broner had 3. Thurman was 30yo but the rest were younger.

                    Wow Floyd beat 36yo Pacquiao after his senses had been scrambled by PED taking Marquez lmao!

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                      #150
                      Steroids don't help you get early KOs. **** outta here, Bud.

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