Let’s call a spade a spade… Is Bivol “ducking” Benavidez?

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

are u saying that every foreign boxer who fights in america has to pay 30% of their purse in federal tax?

Yes! It's terrible, but that's how uncle Sam does business.....

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

A passionate bunch about purses

keep calm Bena will get his shot at Bivol in 1H 2026

Bivol 10-2 Bena or Bivol 9-3 Bena

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lol... I really couldn't care less as none of the profits go in my pocket nor the losses come out of my pocket. I was just discussing what was reported by Sulaiman on a podcast. Personally, I think Bivol is great and deserves to be paid way more than what is being reported by Sulaiman. But I certainly believe that ex Soviet fighters have been underpaid for a long time now.

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

You missing the fact that he has a vested interest in making the Saudis look bad, since the Saudis are looking to compete with them now with their own boxing league and belt? And the other numbers all line up with proven reports. So you'd rather trust a guy with a LONG history of lying for personal benefit over multiple sources who have nothing in it for them in reporting numbers? And you can't think of any benefit for Sulaiman in under-representing purse numbers from Riyadh Season?

And frankly, does it makes sense that fighters would be continuing to sign up for Riyadh Season cards, especially Canelo, if they weren't getting huge paydays? You've got a few people on the outside who are losing money because they're not getting connected making claims that boxers are being underpaid, and yet the boxers keep coming back and saying that they're earning great money. I just don't see how the logic works here in thinking that they're getting less money than others. You've got multiple reports confirming that Bivol made 5 million vs Canelo, before the Saudis really started getting involved, and Beterbiev was avoiding him since 2019. Remember Sulaiman himself was saying he refused to sanction the fight because Bivol lived in Russia... That's the guy you're trusting here. So how did the fight get made, finally, if they were making lower purses than vs other lesser fighters? Make it make sense...

The competition between TKO and the current boxing Organizations will not begin to take effect until a year or so. It currently benefits Sulaiman financially that his champions earn as much as possible from Turki, so what's good for Bivol's pocket right now is good for Sulaiman's pocket.

Financially, it makes great sense for Canelo to sign up to fight in SA. Ginger is getting over paid in the multi millions for 4 fights, 3 of which he won't have to pay uncle Sam taxes on, just the Crawford fight. That is why he is willing to leave his US/Mexican fans with out a party this year and next year's May fights, as well as next year's September fight.

Freaking Ginger made out like a bandit in all of this and if Ginger continues to win, Sulaiman will continue to leach off his favorite fighter's earnings.

[MulaKO]

Just can’t see why fighters would go to Saudi when they can get those amounts , that are being leaked from Sulaiman , right in the States Think about it , on avg a flight from the States to Saudi land is 12 hours and then consider dragging your whole team there etc etc
Just doesn’t make any kind of sense for the same amount

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

Just can’t see why fighters would go to Saudi when they can get those amounts , that are being leaked from Sulaiman , right in the States Think about it , on avg a flight from the States to Saudi land is 12 hours and then consider dragging your whole team there etc etc
Just doesn’t make any kind of sense for the same amount

For non US citizens or residents it makes a lot of sense. You get to keep most of your earnings, unlike here in the States. Like you, I would say that Turki MIGHT be compensating them in other ways, but I won't argue that because that would be merely speculation on my part.

Right now folks, think that Turki is paying all this money, but the promoters still have to pay their obligated contractual payment. Turki just adds to the fighter's purse, the promoter gets their cut without a financial risk. What Turki is more than likely trying to do, which no one is talking about is that after the fighter's contract is up, if the fighter does well and is popular, he no longer has to sign a new contract with his old promoter. He can sign directly with Turki or TKO That's evident in Bivol's case.

Turki flat out threatened Bivol on social media and let him know that he better not sign to fight with Benavidez. At this point in his life Bivol is fighting for money, he couldn't care less about fame in the US or having to pay uncle Sam a big chunk of his fight purse.

[SouthpawRight]

But I certainly believe that ex Soviet fighters have been underpaid for a long time now.

soon that will be over

Big Daddy of America Donald John Trump is cooperating with the Russians

[MulaKO]

For non US citizens or residents it makes a lot of sense. You get to keep most of your earnings, unlike here in the States. Like you, I would say that Turki MIGHT be compensating them in other ways, but I won't argue that because that would be merely speculation on my part.

Right now folks, think that Turki is paying all this money, but the promoters still have to pay their obligated contractual payment. Turki just adds to the fighter's purse, the promoter gets their cut without a financial risk. What Turki is more than likely trying to do, which no one is talking about is that after the fighter's contract is up, if the fighter does well and is popular, he no longer has to sign a new contract with his old promoter. He can sign directly with Turki or TKO That's evident in Bivol's case.

Turki flat out threatened Bivol on social media and let him know that he better not sign to fight with Benavidez. At this point in his life Bivol is fighting for money, he couldn't care less about fame in the US or having to pay uncle Sam a big chunk of his fight purse.

The way fighters are flocking to fight for Turki can’t be just savings on taxes
Sorry but you won’t sell me on that one
Cash is king and I’m sure it’s not any different in Saudi

[SouthpawRight]

At this point in his life Bivol is fighting for money, he couldn't care less about fame in the US

exactly

Bivol be in Russia or Islamic Turkic nations Central Asia Turkey

[Smash]

For non US citizens or residents it makes a lot of sense. You get to keep most of your earnings, unlike here in the States. Like you, I would say that Turki MIGHT be compensating them in other ways, but I won't argue that because that would be merely speculation on my part.

Right now folks, think that Turki is paying all this money, but the promoters still have to pay their obligated contractual payment. Turki just adds to the fighter's purse, the promoter gets their cut without a financial risk. What Turki is more than likely trying to do, which no one is talking about is that after the fighter's contract is up, if the fighter does well and is popular, he no longer has to sign a new contract with his old promoter. He can sign directly with Turki or TKO That's evident in Bivol's case.

Turki flat out threatened Bivol on social media and let him know that he better not sign to fight with Benavidez. At this point in his life Bivol is fighting for money, he couldn't care less about fame in the US or having to pay uncle Sam a big chunk of his fight purse.

why just us citizens? u think that other boxers can just swan in to saudi and pay noone anything at all?

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/boxing/tyson-fury-facing-huge-45m-29192853

[Smash]

For non US citizens or residents it makes a lot of sense. You get to keep most of your earnings, unlike here in the States. Like you, I would say that Turki MIGHT be compensating them in other ways, but I won't argue that because that would be merely speculation on my part.

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how do you know what tax arrangements these boxers have on purses earned in saudi? all from different countries im sure with different tax obligations on income as well