Floyd Rewatching Marquez-Pacquiao IV

[djtmal]

OK I don't know how I can make this easier for you to understand, but, Ricky Hatton objectively beat Luis Collazo at 147 in a close fight that could have gone either way. That's a fact.

Do you know what the word "fact" means? Might do you some good looking it up on your moribdly obese mothers, who is also your aunties computer that she allows you to go on for a few hours a day.

Objectively my azz. You don't "Objectively" give somebody a ww strap he should have left no doubt who the better man was.

Fight wasn't close at all. Hatton got an early knockdown, then got the brakes beat off him the rest of the way, but we know you card carrying Floyd boys prefer your cherrpicks half baked

[djtmal]

Do you know what the word "fact" means? .

Yeah it's a fact Hatton couldn't beat a c fighter without a gift and still was a Floyd cherrypick

[IronDanHamza]

Objectively my azz. You don't "Objectively" give somebody a ww strap he should have left no doubt who the better man was.

Fight wasn't close at all. Hatton got an early knockdown, then got the brakes beat off him the rest of the way, but we know you card carrying Floyd boys prefer your cherrpicks half baked

Yes, objectively. Do you know what that word means?

Hatton won the fight, that's an objective fact.

[IceTrayDaGang]

You called Marquez a drug cheat. That is by definiiton accusing someone us using PEDs.




Who is "ya'll"? You're just making it up.

I've never accused Pacquaio of anything and definitely not asserted it like you baselessly are here with Marquez.



Ok. And?

Ariza has links with PEDs and he worked with Pacquaio for years. That's a fact.

You can't accuse one person of being a drug cheat on the basis that he worked with someone linked with PEDs and then not hold the same standard for a fighter you like. That's something commonly known as "hypocrisy".

It is one or the other.

when did i accused marquez? like i said, yall accused pac of being on peds with no proof, pac wasnt working with anyone linked to peds when yall was accusing him... oh, so you didnt accuse manny? but i didnt see you on here sticking up for manny like you are here with marquez. all im saying is YOU said working with someone who is linked to peds doesnt mean the athlete is cheating yet you didnt have any issues when posters on here was accusing manny.

when pac worked with ariza, there was no bad jacket on ariza's name. it was after pac/ariza ended, that's when ariza got with rios who later got popped and then floyd hired ariza in 2015 for his fight against manny.

[IronDanHamza]

when did i accused marquez?

I thought I was talking to the Excellency poster that accused Marquez of being a drug cheat.

like i said, yall accused pac of being on peds with no proof,

Again, who is "ya'll" I don't know who "ya'll" is.

I have never accused Pacquaio of being on PEDs so it's a non argument you are making.

pac wasnt working with anyone linked to peds when yall was accusing him... oh, so you didnt accuse manny? but i didnt see you on here sticking up for manny like you are here with marquez.

I'm not sticking up for anyone.

I am pointing out that if someone is going to call Marquez a "drug cheat" with zero demonstrable evidence on the basis he has worked with someone linked to PEDs then you have to be consistent and do the same with Pacquaio. I

all im saying is YOU said working with someone who is linked to peds doesnt mean the athlete is cheating yet you didnt have any issues when posters on here was accusing manny.

Right, exactly. Working with someone who has links to PEDs does not make them a user of PEDs or at least does not prove that.

That goes for both Pacquaio, and Marquez. It's one or the other, you can't have both.

when pac worked with ariza, there was no bad jacket on ariza's name. it was after pac/ariza ended, that's when ariza got with rios who later got popped and then floyd hired ariza in 2015 for his fight against manny.

Ariza was open about his links with PED use both before and after his athletes directly popped for them but that's irrelant anyway because the fact of the matter is he has links to PED use and he worked with Pacquaio for years just like Memo with Marquez. Pretty sure whilst Memo and Marquez had a working relationship that he or none of his other athletes popped for anything.

So, it's the same difference.

You have to pick a side they're either both PED cheats or neither of them are.

[djtmal]

Hatton won the fight, that's an objective fact.

For you maybe. A lot of people believed he lost.

Definitely didn't do enough to win or take Collazos belt

Iron Dan. Gift decisions are good in his book. Especially if its a potential Floyd cherrypick

[IronDanHamza]

For you maybe. A lot of people believed he lost.

Definitely didn't do enough to win or take Collazos belt

Iron Dan. Gift decisions are good in his book. Especially if its a potential Floyd cherrypick

He literally did do enough to take his belt because he won the fight by winning more rounds than Collazo won.

People are entitled to believe he lost and it was a close fight so it's a fair opinon but that doesn't change the fact that Hatton won and he won fair and sqaure.

Again, this is objective reality. Somewhere you do not live.

[Haka]

Where are you getting 95% of them from, outside of your ass?

He fought weaker Diaz instead of Campbell.

He fought weaker unranked fighters in 2010 and 2011 instead of a plethora of ranked fighters that were available both Top 5 and Top 10.

He fought a weaker unranked Oscar instead of 2008 versions of; Paul Williams, Cotto, Margarito, Mosley, Cintron etc

He still didn't fight anyone I've listed. ALL ranked in the Top 5-10, some champions, which you just lied and said they weren't ranked. Do you have any proof that Pacquaio fought those fighters?

The same nonsense you're trying to say the other way, can be said this way. Are you not getting it? You're talking nonsense, is the point. It's not quite sinking it, it doesn't seem.




Ok. And? He still didn't fight Paul Williams, did he? Do you have any proof that he fought Paul Williams?

You're listing fights "at 160" on your retarded list for Floyd, a weight he never fought at ever.

Yet are not listing Jr Middleweights on Pacquaio's list when he was a belt holder at Jr Middleweight. That's not even a double standard it's just non sensical and moronic.

Pacquaio could have fought Williams in 2008 when he was at Welterweight and he could have fought in 2010-2011 when he was at Jr Middleweight, but, he didn't.

You've already admitted he ducked Williams, Canelo and he entire Jr Middleweight division.

Even if that were true that Pac ducked the class of 154 with Pwill, Sergio in 2011-12, it is not as if he fought at that weight since 2006.

[Roadblock]

He literally did do enough to take his belt because he won the fight by winning more rounds than Collazo won.

People are entitled to believe he lost and it was a close fight so it's a fair opinon but that doesn't change the fact that Hatton won and he won fair and sqaure.

Again, this is objective reality. Somewhere you do not live.

Youre trying to talk sense to imbeciles, its never going to work somehow that fool thinks Floyd stopping unbeaten Hatton is no good even though Hatton was 153 the same ring weight he was when he beating KT, Floyd was 152 , yet Manny beating left overs is ok. And Hatton was 158 fighting Collazo and said he was sluggish and would never fight that heavy again and he didnt.

This is from Hatton's book stating it.
Hatton-book.jpg

[IronDanHamza]

Even if that were true that Pac ducked the class of 154 with Pwill, Sergio in 2011-12

You're the one that said that he ducked that weight class.

it is not as if he fought at that weight since 2006.

So what?

He didn't fight them. Do you have any proof that he fought any of those fighters?