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  • IronDanHamza
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    #221
    Originally posted by djtmal

    You probably didn't even watch Hatton vs Collazo.
    Er yeah I did.

    It was a close, either way fight that Hatton won. That's a fact. I know you don't like facts.

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      #222
      Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang

      so working with someone who is a known ped pusher doesnt mean anything? yet, yall accused pac of being on peds with no failed test with or without ariza. no failed test ever, yet yall accused manny of being on peds just because he whooped on cotto.
      Again, the only person baslessly accusing people of being on PEDs here is you.

      Working with someone with a background in PEDs is not evidence that that athelte used PED's, I'm sorry.

      Pacquaio worked with someone linked to PEDs. If that is the measuring stick then Pacquaio is also a PED cheat using the same logic.

      It's one or the other, you can't have both.

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      • djtmal
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        #223
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza

        Er yeah I did.

        It was a close, either way fight that Hatton won. That's a fact. I know you don't like facts.
        He got a gift and that's the truth.

        He certainly didn't win convincingly.

        He should have beat Collazo convincingly before Floyd but we know he was already pre cherrypicked
        Last edited by djtmal; 03-24-2025, 02:57 PM.

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          #224
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza

          Brandon Rios, amongst others.

          He has links to PED use, you are actually going to attempt to deny that?



          The only person baselessly accusing people of PED use here is yourself.

          I hate to break it to you but there is no more evidence for Marquez using PED's than there is Pacquaio using PEDs.
          i never accused anyone of using peds... i am only pointing out what you said "working with someone doesnt make you a ped cheat".. yet yall accused manny of being on peds with no proof!!!

          correct me if i am wrong here, but didnt pac and ariza relationship ended already before ariza worked with rios who was later pop with peds?

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            #225
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza

            Again, the only person baslessly accusing people of being on PEDs here is you.

            Working with someone with a background in PEDs is not evidence that that athelte used PED's, I'm sorry.

            Pacquaio worked with someone linked to PEDs. If that is the measuring stick then Pacquaio is also a PED cheat using the same logic.

            It's one or the other, you can't have both.
            but yall already accused manny of being on peds without working with anyone with a backghround in peds!! so how did that came about then??? you said working with someone with a background in peds doesnt mean the athlete is using peds, but yet ya;; accused manny of being on peds without doing any of what you mentioned!

            pac and ariza relationship ended before ariza worked with rios... and then later on ariza worked with floyd. all this came after pac and ariza already went their separate way.

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              #226
              Originally posted by djtmal

              He got a gift and that's the truth.

              He certainly didn't win convincingly.

              He should have beat Collazo convincingly before Floyd but we know he was already pre cherrypicked
              He won a close fight, against a Top 5 ranked fighter. That is the objective truth.

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                #227
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                He won a close fight, against a Top 5 ranked fighter. That is the objective truth.
                He lost a fight against a legit b- to c fighter which should have been immediate rematch imo

                Oh I forgot I am talking to a Floyd Boy, where bare minimum and path of least resistance is the norm
                Last edited by djtmal; 03-24-2025, 03:24 PM.

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                  #228
                  Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang

                  i never accused anyone of using peds...
                  You called Marquez a drug cheat. That is by definiiton accusing someone us using PEDs.


                  Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang
                  i am only pointing out what you said "working with someone doesnt make you a ped cheat".. yet yall accused manny of being on peds with no proof!!!
                  Who is "ya'll"? You're just making it up.

                  I've never accused Pacquaio of anything and definitely not asserted it like you baselessly are here with Marquez.

                  Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang
                  correct me if i am wrong here, but didnt pac and ariza relationship ended already before ariza worked with rios who was later pop with peds?
                  Ok. And?

                  Ariza has links with PEDs and he worked with Pacquaio for years. That's a fact.

                  You can't accuse one person of being a drug cheat on the basis that he worked with someone linked with PEDs and then not hold the same standard for a fighter you like. That's something commonly known as "hypocrisy".

                  It is one or the other.

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                    #229
                    Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang

                    but yall already accused manny of being on peds without working with anyone with a backghround in peds!! so how did that came about then??? you said working with someone with a background in peds doesnt mean the athlete is using peds, but yet ya;; accused manny of being on peds without doing any of what you mentioned!
                    Show me where I have accused Pacquaio of taking PEDs. There is no demonstable evidence Pacquaio has taken any PEDs.

                    Just like there is no evidence that Marquez has taken PEDs.

                    It is you that is throwing around accusations and labelling people drug cheats, not me.

                    Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang
                    pac and ariza relationship ended before ariza worked with rios... and then later on ariza worked with floyd. all this came after pac and ariza already went their separate way.
                    So what? Does that magically erase the fact he's linked with PEDs and worked with Pacquaio for years?

                    No, it doesn't.

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                      #230
                      Originally posted by djtmal

                      He lost a fight against a legit b- to c fighter which should have been immediate rematch imo

                      Oh I forgot I am talking to a Floyd Boy, where bare minimum is the norm
                      OK I don't know how I can make this easier for you to understand, but, Ricky Hatton objectively beat Luis Collazo at 147 in a close fight that could have gone either way. That's a fact.

                      Do you know what the word "fact" means? Might do you some good looking it up on your moribdly obese mothers, who is also your aunties computer that she allows you to go on for a few hours a day.

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