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Originally posted by HisExcellency View PostOriginally posted by MulaKO View PostYup that was my original thought of him until I seen him flip flop calling out fighters and then switching to fan of same fighter
He mentioned that anyone who thought Bud had a chance to beat Canelo was a simp
Bivol thinks so but doesn’t fit his narrative lmao
Join Pick 'Em if you think you know boxing...there's simply NO excuse not to unless you're a scaredy-kitty?
let start with yours
did you predict Timmeh would beat manny again in the rematch
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Originally posted by Haka View Post
Because in 95% cases Pac fought much stronger foes instead and this can hardly be said the other way around.
He fought weaker Diaz instead of Campbell.
He fought weaker unranked fighters in 2010 and 2011 instead of a plethora of ranked fighters that were available both Top 5 and Top 10.
He fought a weaker unranked Oscar instead of 2008 versions of; Paul Williams, Cotto, Margarito, Mosley, Cintron etc
He still didn't fight anyone I've listed. ALL ranked in the Top 5-10, some champions, which you just lied and said they weren't ranked. Do you have any proof that Pacquaio fought those fighters?
The same nonsense you're trying to say the other way, can be said this way. Are you not getting it? You're talking nonsense, is the point. It's not quite sinking it, it doesn't seem.
Originally posted by Haka View PostPaul Williams was around for half a decade at 147 and Pac never fought at 154
You're listing fights "at 160" on your retarded list for Floyd, a weight he never fought at ever.
Yet are not listing Jr Middleweights on Pacquaio's list when he was a belt holder at Jr Middleweight. That's not even a double standard it's just non sensical and moronic.
Pacquaio could have fought Williams in 2008 when he was at Welterweight and he could have fought in 2010-2011 when he was at Jr Middleweight, but, he didn't.
You've already admitted he ducked Williams, Canelo and he entire Jr Middleweight division.Last edited by IronDanHamza; 03-24-2025, 01:20 PM.
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Originally posted by djtmal View Post
Hatton arguably lost to Collazo. Certainly didn't look like a threat at 147 after that fight, but he was undefeated and highly marketable for a cherrypicker like Floyd so the Collazo fight was a mere formality. Hatton was certainly better at 140.
Hatton was below average at 147 but is one of Floyds best wins
The poster said Hatton had never fought at 147 which is a lie because he fought and beat #4 ranked Collazo at 147 prior to that.
Simple.
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Originally posted by HisExcellency View Post
Lmao...the fact that you're still in DENIAL about Marquez juicing during his last 2 fights with Pacquiao is hilarious despite the fact that his drugs cheat coach already ADMITTED supplying a number of athletes he trained with steroids, EPO & HGH plus Marquez was suddenly able to drop Manny hard TWICE in their fourth fight without being able to do so previously. Read between the lines!
Again, working with someone is not evidence the athlete used PEDs.
Pacquaio worked with Ariza for years who has links to PEDs. Does that make Pacquaio a drug cheat?
Originally posted by HisExcellency View PostAlso, Floyd beat Oscar at his natural weight? WRONG again! Firstly, ODLH is a 6 weight world champion so how can you say that Light Middleweight is his natural weight class? It might've been easier for him to make that weight towards the end of his career (since Mayweather only fought him once he turned 34yo and had suffered 4 defeats), however, it certainly WASN'T his natural weight class. In fact, if you scroll through his resume, he's only had 6 fights at 154lbs vs 12 at 147lbs. Therefore, it anybody beat him at his natural weight it was Manny despite the excuses ODLH came up with after getting battered from pillar to post (Mayweather only won by SD which his daddy thought he LOST lmao)!
Similarly, Pacquiao DESTROYED Hatton in his natural weight class whereas Mayweather only beat him in his second fight at Welterweight. Mayweather also failed to get Cotto out of there despite Pacquiao doing it in style.
Oscar hadn't fought below Jr Middleweight since 2001.
To consider Welterweight, a weight he hadn't been at in 7 years, his "natural" weight at that time is too imbecilic to even compute.
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
Again, working with someone is not evidence the athlete used PEDs.
Pacquaio worked with Ariza for years who has links to PEDs. Does that make Pacquaio a drug cheat?
That's just comical
Oscar hadn't fought below Jr Middleweight since 2001.
To consider Welterweight, a weight he hadn't been at in 7 years, his "natural" weight at that time is too imbecilic to even compute.
Btw I'm still REELING at your 'Keith Thurman is NOT a puncher BS'...that tells me everything I need to know about your intellect!
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Originally posted by SouthpawRight View Postincompetent scorer and exposed historical revisionist now pleads for predictions
let start with yours
did you predict Timmeh would beat manny again in the rematch
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Originally posted by MulaKO View Post
Yup that was my original thought of him until I seen him flip flop calling out fighters and then switching to fan of same fighter
He mentioned that anyone who thought Bud had a chance to beat Canelo was a simp
Bivol thinks so but doesn’t fit his narrative lmao
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Originally posted by HisExcellency View Post
Lol the silence is deafening...I think you can rack that particular point up as a 'W' (by 1st round KO)
He forgot to copy paste it so I dropped it on him lol
The comfortable silence
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Originally posted by HisExcellency View Post
Actually you MISSED the point dummy...you cannot claim that Junior Middleweight is ODLH 'natural' weight when he's a 6 DIVISION world champion and has fought twice as many fights at Welterweight. Just because Floyd fought him when he was 34yo and at the end of his career (when fighter's usually gain weight) DOESN'T make it his 'natural' weight class by any stretch. That's my point.
In 2008, Oscar hadn't fought lower than Jr Middleweight in 7 years....Meaning...at that point his natural, comfortable fighting weight was Jr Middleweight. Hence....why he'd been campaigning there for 7 years.
I'm not sure where you're lost on that one.
Originally posted by HisExcellency View PostBtw I'm still REELING at your 'Keith Thurman is NOT a puncher BS'...that tells me everything I need to know about your intellect!
He has zero wins KO wins over ranked opponents. He has less than 5 KD's vs ranked opponents.
That's objectively not a puncher.
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