Comments Thread For: 'Ammo' Williams and Patrice Volny make weight, Edgar Berlanga comes in over

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  • madhive
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    #11
    Berlanga in an article claims to be a super star and anticipates other promoters cant wait to sign him, after this fight with Matchroom which will be his last. This guy is more delusional than Teo.

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    • 1Eriugenus
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      #12
      I think a 'poltroon' was a completely contemptible person; a useless, pointless & cowardly toerag.
      An aristocrat reproached John Wilkes 'Sir, my opinion of you is most contemptible' . Wilkes responded 'Sir, I never knew an opinion of yours that wasn't'.
      Each thought the other to be a Poltroon although Wilkes was clearly the wittier.
      It is completely different to Schmuck which is just a fool. You can be a thoroughly nice, decent guy & still a Schmuck.

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      • 1Eriugenus
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        #13
        Now, Conor Benn could be a Poltroon.

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        • crimsonfalcon07
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          #14
          Originally posted by Left Hook Louie

          I have misunderstood the meaning of 'poltroon', to be honest.
          It sounds like another word for schmuck or idiot, but it really means coward. I should have just called him a schmuck.
          But one could say he's be afraid to succeed and thus sabotages his career this way.
          In your defense, it came from Old Italian poltrone, which also carried the meaning "lazy good-for-nothing", which may have derived from "poltron: bed". If I'm not mistaken, I think poltrona in modern Italian means "armchair", which fits the "lazy" connotation. So it's entirely possible that you heard it in a way that's 100% consistent with the use to which you put it, and, I, for one, appreciated seeing the relatively archaic word again. Haven't seen that since I think maybe my last reading of Forester's Hornblower series.

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          • 1Eriugenus
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            #15
            'This guy is more delusional than Teo'.

            For all his faults Teo properly can fight. I'm not convinced about Edgar.

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            • lilacp
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              #16
              I've always thought Berlanga to be an embarrassment to Puerto Rican boxing, but this is the cherry on the top. I hope he loses.

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                #17
                Am I tripping or wasn't bernalgas suppose to be the headliner in a card in Puerto Rico? Now he's on the undercard in a Florida card?

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                • LA_2_Vegas
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                  #18
                  Gonzalez could be added to that thread of wasted careers. Not top 100 or anything, but just saying that he had some ability and fizzled out.

                  I'm really not sure what to expect out of him here though; he could just get rolled over being smaller, older, and mostly inactive until recently.

                  I remember he came in overweight to his HBO debut years back and underperformed - and now it's Berlanga who is the one coming in overweight.

                  I hope he can hang in there, his style could be tricky for Berlanga if he can.
                  Last edited by LA_2_Vegas; 03-14-2025, 10:00 PM.

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                  • Elheath
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by madhive
                    Berlanga in an article claims to be a super star and anticipates other promoters cant wait to sign him, after this fight with Matchroom which will be his last. This guy is more delusional than Teo.
                    Teo is a current 140 beltholder and a two weight champ, and have defeated top tier guys in his division in the past. Berlanga's greatest accomplishment was to have a Puertorican heritage and having crushed enough unranked no names to begin his career to score a cashout UD loss to Canelo.

                    Shouldn't even be said in the same sentence to begin with and when compared to Berlanga, Teo is indeed a super duper mega star.

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                    • Left Hook Louie
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07

                      In your defense, it came from Old Italian poltrone, which also carried the meaning "lazy good-for-nothing", which may have derived from "poltron: bed". If I'm not mistaken, I think poltrona in modern Italian means "armchair", which fits the "lazy" connotation. So it's entirely possible that you heard it in a way that's 100% consistent with the use to which you put it, and, I, for one, appreciated seeing the relatively archaic word again. Haven't seen that since I think maybe my last reading of Forester's Hornblower series.
                      Grazie! Sono sollevato e redento allo stesso tempo.
                      "Lazy good-for-nothing" works for me LOL
                      Poltroon it is and forever shall be.

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