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  • #61
    Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post

    WTF man. You need to read the articles. He was LEGALLY REQUIRED to fulfill his contractual obligation to Fury for the rematch, not to mention being an honorable man who had given his word he'd rematch Fury, who, like it or not, was still the clear #2 in the division, especially above a chump like Dubois who he'd already stopped, while winning every second that he wasn't getting punched low.

    After Fury activated the rematch clause, his ONLY recourse when it comes to the IBF was to request an exception, WHICH HE DID. They said no, because they're a bunch of hypocritical tools who have more interest in stripping deserving undisputed champions than in having rankings that don't blow giant chunks.

    Rather than get stripped after the petition was denied, Usyk decided to just vacate the belt, because it was that, or violate his contract and his word and get sued. Did you just read the headline and nothing else?

    The fact that you don't understand this, and the nature of a legal contract, says clearly that you have an agenda here to hate on the champ. And considering that Usyk has had to win every title on the road as an underdog while being doubted by "fans" like you, he has d*** well earned his stripes.
    Do you think Oleksandr Uysk will defend his titles vs Joseph Parker? Or is he going to vacate his WBO titles, like he did the IBF titles?

    I believe Oleksandr Uysk had a strong case 'To make a mandatory defense of his IBF titles. Who has more political power in the game? The IBF or Tyson Fury 'I would say that the IBF organisation has way more political power, especially when it comes to their title. It makes no sense for them to order a mandatory defense of their titles, knowing that Oleksandr Uysk has no chance of being able to adhere to those requirements'.

    Oleksandr Uysk could have done more to hold onto his IBF World titles 'In my opinion, he gave them up by far too easily. Ultimately that is the main viewpoint I have on this subject'.

    Nobody on this forum has seen the rematch clause of Tyson Fury's vs Oleksandr Uysk 'Everyone is just having their best guess at the finer details of the rematch clause'.

    Contracts can be broken 'And Oleksandr Uysk had a very good reason to break his rematch clause. He was the undisputed Champion, and the victor if the first Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Uysk I fight. And the IBF organisation had just mandated that he should make a defense of his titles'.

    Note: Tyson Fury multiple times throughout the entire Fury vs Uysk saga 'Broke his fight contracts. Fury has also done this vs Wladimir Kiltschko in the past unfortunately due to his then circumstance. That is why both of those fights were postponed and rescheduled. I would imagine that this could have been used as evidence, to support Oleksandr Uysk's case for wanting more time and permission to make a mandatory defense of his IBF titles'.

    Overall Oleksandr Uysk decided to tactically vacated the IBF titles 'Because the time frame of 7 months, was not convenient or optimal for him to have a interim fight. Oleksandr Uysk desired to instead focus and dedicated the 7 month period between the first fight towards his rematch against Tyson Fury on December 21 st 2024. It is completely understandably why Oleksandr Uysk behaved in such a way, he knew? That in such a competitive and close first fight at times, he had to make a sacrifice in his preparation for his rematch against Tyson Fury'.

    My criticism is? People have went along with the narrative that the IBF Organisation were acting way out of order 'When in reality they were upholding their standards. Oleksandr Uysk voluntary vacated his IBF titles, and decided not to make a mandatory defense. Alex Kyrassyuk clearly states that this was Uysk's decision'.

    To conclude: I have no doubt that Oleksandr Uysk is a great fighter, he is the most accomplished active fighter in the entire sport 'And pound for pound his two wins vs Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua are the greatest feats of achievement in the sport of the past 15 years'.

    But as a Champion his resume and conduct has not been impeccable 'He has avoided mandatory defenses and vacated titles with too much ease in my opinion. It is now 2025, and the WBO has just order that Oleksandr Usyk should defend his titles vs Joseph Parker. Therefore Parker should be Uysk's next opponent, unless of course they grant Oleksandr Uysk a exemption. Which overall would not be great look for the WBO organisation being pushed about by one of their great fighters'.

    The World titles are only going maintained and build prestige if the fighters adhere to the rules 'And the organisations themselves, without any favouritism or subjectivity mandate their rules in the game' etc.







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    Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 03-19-2025, 08:59 AM.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post

      Do you think Oleksandr Uysk will defend his titles vs Joseph Parker? Or is he going to vacate his WBO titles, like he did the IBF titles?
      You don't understand the concept of a rematch clause, nor contracts at all. I have seen rematch clauses before, in person, on a fight contract. They do not permit interim fights ever, because that defeats the whole purpose of a rematch clause. You still have yet to produce even ONE example of one that did, because they don't exist. Why are you talking about "political power" when it's legal power that matters?

      Fury broke his contract with Klitschko by retiring for 5 years. That's the only out, which has been described already in many of the articles which you didn't bother to read. Usyk still wants to fight, so he has to honor his legal obligations. A mandatory defense doesn't carry any legal obligations, other than getting stripped of the belt if you don't fight the guy.

      Usyk has said publicly that he gave his word to Dubois that they'd rematch, and unifications usually trump mandatories, and they're already in negotiations with Dubois. So any discussion is premature depending on whether Parker wants to take a step-aside or try to enforce his position.

      Either way, it's getting sad that you'd rather cling to your ignorance than learn something here, and the fact that you're trying to die on the hill that a mandatory defense for the organization with the WORST rankings vs a guy he'd already beaten comprehensively would have been better than rematching the clear #2 in the division who he had a legal contract to rematch is, frankly, one of the worst takes I've ever seen from you. I'm not dignifying you any further. If you want to wallow in your own ignorance, do it alone.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post

        You don't understand the concept of a rematch clause, nor contracts at all. I have seen rematch clauses before, in person, on a fight contract. They do not permit interim fights ever, because that defeats the whole purpose of a rematch clause. You still have yet to produce even ONE example of one that did, because they don't exist. Why are you talking about "political power" when it's legal power that matters?

        Fury broke his contract with Klitschko by retiring for 5 years. That's the only out, which has been described already in many of the articles which you didn't bother to read. Usyk still wants to fight, so he has to honor his legal obligations. A mandatory defense doesn't carry any legal obligations, other than getting stripped of the belt if you don't fight the guy.

        Usyk has said publicly that he gave his word to Dubois that they'd rematch, and unifications usually trump mandatories, and they're already in negotiations with Dubois. So any discussion is premature depending on whether Parker wants to take a step-aside or try to enforce his position.

        Either way, it's getting sad that you'd rather cling to your ignorance than learn something here, and the fact that you're trying to die on the hill that a mandatory defense for the organization with the WORST rankings vs a guy he'd already beaten comprehensively would have been better than rematching the clear #2 in the division who he had a legal contract to rematch is, frankly, one of the worst takes I've ever seen from you. I'm not dignifying you any further. If you want to wallow in your own ignorance, do it alone.
        Why bother arguing with a guy who clearly doesn't understand the concepts at hand, nor how to communicate in basic English?

        Randomly putting quotation marks throughout your post doesn't make it sound smarter.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

          I thought they’d same thing and if anybody is more deserving it’s Parker
          I think the Usyk Parker would be a good fight
          Yeah I agree. Parker has shown that he is learning and getting better, if he peaks his next fight, entirely possible, and if Usyk gets frustrated (has happened a number of times) Parker wins the early rounds, and can prevent Usyk from imposing himself the later rounds, Parker could make a go at it.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

            Yeah I agree. Parker has shown that he is learning and getting better, if he peaks his next fight, entirely possible, and if Usyk gets frustrated (has happened a number of times) Parker wins the early rounds, and can prevent Usyk from imposing himself the later rounds, Parker could make a go at it.
            Yup I honestly believe that
            Parker seems to have gained that precious patience which only comes with experience
            Meaning he’s learned how to adapt

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            • #66
              I love casuals: "I don't understand the lineal so lets get rid of it... You cannot make this shiat up.

              Quantum Physics is another nebulous concept... I can't quite wrap my head around it, so lets can that as well... Nuclear Transmutations? Ditto...
              Last edited by billeau2; 03-19-2025, 03:12 PM.
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              • #67
                Originally posted by NihonJim View Post

                I was on this very site at the time and people were arguing it shouldn't have been for the ******* title because of Vitali being around.

                I'm not sure why it triggers people so much anyway, it's a made up title, some people say there should never again be another lineal title as once the lineage was broken when Lennox lewis retired that should have been the end of the concept.
                It is not made up and who are you to decide what needs to be gotten rid of? What a silly post.

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                • #68
                  https://talksport.com/boxing/3033238...k-fight-title/

                  The Mighty Oilskin Parker wants all the smoke.

                  Sniffles Dubois, not so much.

                  Usyk, maybe, maybe not...

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