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"I'm satisfied with that". Good for you Roach - that is the high horse.
That said, everyone knowing you won doesn't give you the W. I struggle to imagine anyone other than die hard Canelo lovers, for example, thinking that he won the first GGG fight. The big problem is that arguments so often end with "but he didn't get the win. He lost". It sucks for Roach that this is a draw and not a win. Sucks bad.
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Originally posted by Damick View PostLet’s twist the story with a rating jump Roach Beat Davis pound for pound list needs a twist or is it too much to promote a fighter. At least Lamont Roach has to be rated ahead of Shakur Stevenson and Keyshawn Davis,,,, let’s twist this story for praise for one of the greatest fighters in the ring in 2025,,,,
I’d rather he doesn’t give Tank a rematch at all. He can fight Shakur or Keyshawn.
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Originally posted by Aware View PostAlthough I think Roach won, I am completely fine with the knockdown not being called. It was clear that a punch didn't cause the knockdown. I think refs should be able to use their discretion in this type of situation. People are going to scream it is the rule, but Davis was being sincere in his actions.
Might as well make the rules up as we go along then
I would be ok with that lmao
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Originally posted by Aware View Post
Actually, it is precisely the refs' call to make. It's laughable how incorrect your statement is. It was the wrong call by the book, but that's not what I'm arguing. If you read and comprehend what I initially wrote, I am fine with it not being called a knockdown simply because a punch didn't cause it.
That’s like saying if a fighter gets dropped by a clear punch the ref can just decide to give them a timeout and not call it a knockdown. Refs have been disciplined before for not following the rules. Here it was worse because he had a replay option to correct it and choose not to.Last edited by QballLobo; 03-09-2025, 02:26 PM.
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Originally posted by QballLobo View Post
Actually you are wrong. If Tank asked the ref for a stoppage and the ref grants it then it is his choice. But once the fighter makes their decision to take the knee the ref can’t just decide it’s not a knockdown. That’s not in the rules.
That’s like saying if a fighter gets dropped by a clear punch the ref can just decide to give them a timeout and not call it a knockdown. Refs have been disciplined before for not following the rules. Here it was worse because he had a replay option to correct it and choose not to.
I'm not. A fighter can take a knee from a low blow/borderline shot (see Usyk-Dubois), a headbutt, a thumb in the eye, etc. It's up to the ref to make the call.
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Originally posted by Aware View Post
I'm not. A fighter can take a knee from a low blow/borderline shot (see Usyk-Dubois), a headbutt, a thumb in the eye, etc. It's up to the ref to make the call.
Refs are trained in those situations to make the official call and communicate that to the judges and corners in real time. This isn’t the wild west where they just make it up on the fly as they go along. Not how it works.
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Originally posted by QballLobo View Post
You are making no sense. In those scenarios the ref makes an official call and the fight stops. In this incident the ref made no such call. Ref saw the knee taken with no foul then started counting. Then Tank runs to the corner without the ref approving the stoppage. These are all penalties that should be ruled a knockdown or disqualification.
Refs are trained in those situations to make the official call and communicate that to the judges and corners in real time. This isn’t the wild west where they just make it up on the fly as they go along. Not how it works.
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