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  • Haka
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    #11
    Originally posted by NihonJim

    So you are comparing a 21 year old Ali to a prime Usyk?

    Know what Usyk was doing when he was 21? Of course you don't

    He was losing

    To SHAWN PORTER
    Haven't seen the fight do you have that on film ? Besides a 4x2 scrap with 12oz and headgear only barely resembles professional fight.

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    • NihonJim
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      #12
      Originally posted by Haka

      Haven't seen the fight do you have that on film ? Besides a 4x2 scrap with 12oz and headgear only barely resembles professional fight.
      You can't find it online anymore but Usyk couldn't handle Porters pressure style at all, which I strongly suspect would still be an issue in the pros if there were any quality pressure fighters at 200+, sadly there aren't

      Historically there's been many which is another reason I'm not ready to crown him goat

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      • Shrap
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        #13
        Originally posted by NihonJim

        You can't find it online anymore but Usyk couldn't handle Porters pressure style at all, which I strongly suspect would still be an issue in the pros if there were any quality pressure fighters at 200+, sadly there aren't

        Historically there's been many which is another reason I'm not ready to crown him goat
        The salt levels here are unreal. Amateur green Usyk in a 4 round fight at middleweight almost 20 years ago and you are using that to try and diminish his legacy and create hypothetical current weaknesses.

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        • TMLT87
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          #14
          Hes absolutely an ATG but yeah, I dont think beating AJ, Fury, Dubois and Del Boy is enough to start calling him greatest HW ever. They are good not great fighters in a fairly weak HW era. It should tell you something that all of his big HW wins come from one not especially big country that typically only has around 50 HWs active.

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          • BrometheusBob.
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            #15
            It's an overreaction but Usyk is definitely a great boxer and you can't put anyone above him right now. Even p4p.

            Originally posted by BodyBagz
            The after fight atmosphere in NSB has a way of being overzealous.
            It claim Fury was better than Ali
            That does ring a bell

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            • NihonJim
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              #16
              Originally posted by Shrap
              The salt levels here are unreal. Amateur green Usyk in a 4 round fight at middleweight almost 20 years ago and you are using that to try and diminish his legacy and create hypothetical current weaknesses.
              The point was made because someone was trying to compare a green Ali who was the age Usyk was when he lost to porter to a prime Usyk, don't get your panties in a twist

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              • hugh grant
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                #17
                If usyk cleans out top ten heavyweights ie parker, zhang, bakole, ajit kabayel I will say usyk is goat
                Last edited by hugh grant; 12-24-2024, 06:18 AM.

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                • M312
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                  #18
                  Want Nationality does he need to beat?

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                  • Damn Wicked
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by NihonJim

                    You can't find it online anymore but Usyk couldn't handle Porters pressure style at all, which I strongly suspect would still be an issue in the pros if there were any quality pressure fighters at 200+, sadly there aren't

                    Historically there's been many which is another reason I'm not ready to crown him goat
                    I wonder if the pressure of Chisora could beat the pressure of Porter...

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                    • Toffee
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                      #20
                      He's literally the best fighter in the world right now. He's deserving of praise.

                      As for all time lists, well he doesn't have the list of defenses so he doesn't get there yet.

                      Mind you, his performances against Joshua and Fury were as good as anything I've seen at heavyweight. Just an incredible level. You don't see many heavyweights do what he does. If any.

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