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  • Roadblock
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    #11
    It cannot be accurate until there is sensors in the gloves that track positions, landing and power, without the sensors its relying on cameras and that's not accurate enough, its a good start to new tech but it must have sensors in the gloves to be 100% accurate.

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    • SUBZER0ED
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      #12
      Originally posted by dibzvincent143
      Nahhhh. Not until it’s proven it can judge well and test in on 1000 fights and get atleast 95% of them right
      Agreed. For an AI judge to have such a wide scorecard compared to 3 human judges, shows that it missed something.

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      • Zelda
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        #13
        AI is as good as the training data provided to it.

        So if the system is going to be trained on previous fights (and its corrupt/incompetent judging), it is not hard to believe it to have in-built bias. Secondly, AI does sometimes struggle with video motion with humans (and quite a fast one). To have a more capable AI system would need to recreate a 3D model of the fight and judge it which means installing cameras from different angles. So, at this stage, what we could aim for is to have every substantial boxing match be recorded from multiple angles suited for AI and act as an assistance to human judges. This needs to be done for some time before AI can take over somewhere down the line.

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        • crimsonfalcon07
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          #14
          Originally posted by SUBZER0ED

          Agreed. For an AI judge to have such a wide scorecard compared to 3 human judges, shows that it missed something.
          TBF, it also shows that the humans could have missed things. The humans might have been giving a lot more credence to Fury than he should have gotten, as evidenced by the glazing from the DAZN commentators, talking up Fury every time he moved his gloves, when some of his best shots according to them landed on gloves and didn't score.

          But AI does seem to value different things. As I recall, AI scores for Haney Loma were extremely wide as well.

          As is, Usyk clearly won a competitive fight that I had 3 rounds to Fury, and could have seen 4, and that's as a guy giving up huge amounts of height and weight. The "middleweight" is indisputably the Heavyweight King of the era, and people had better start putting some respect on his name.

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          • SUBZER0ED
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            #15
            Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07

            TBF, it also shows that the humans could have missed things. The humans might have been giving a lot more credence to Fury than he should have gotten, as evidenced by the glazing from the DAZN commentators, talking up Fury every time he moved his gloves, when some of his best shots according to them landed on gloves and didn't score.

            But AI does seem to value different things. As I recall, AI scores for Haney Loma were extremely wide as well.

            As is, Usyk clearly won a competitive fight that I had 3 rounds to Fury, and could have seen 4, and that's as a guy giving up huge amounts of height and weight. The "middleweight" is indisputably the Heavyweight King of the era, and people had better start putting some respect on his name.
            I noticed that whenever Usyk landed anything, the crowd exclaimed and cheered, while Fury's landed shots got barely a whisper. Since humans created AI, I won't put the creation over the creators. There are subjective elements that I believe AI simply cannot perceive. I feel that Fury boxed better this time around, but it was in spurts and not as consistent as he should have been. He also failed to impose his size more and bully Usyk. Besides Oleksandr's high-level skill, I feel that Tyson didn't go out there and try to destroy him as he should have. Instead, he tried to outbox a master boxer. Usyk outboxes his opponents, hence the low KO ratio. To beat him, one must try to destroy him.

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            • Haka
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              #16
              That 118-112 was the only correct scorecard in Fury-Usyk.

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              • satiev1
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                #17
                Originally posted by SUBZER0ED

                I noticed that whenever Usyk landed anything, the crowd exclaimed and cheered, while Fury's landed shots got barely a whisper. Since humans created AI, I won't put the creation over the creators. There are subjective elements that I believe AI simply cannot perceive. I feel that Fury boxed better this time around, but it was in spurts and not as consistent as he should have been. He also failed to impose his size more and bully Usyk. Besides Oleksandr's high-level skill, I feel that Tyson didn't go out there and try to destroy him as he should have. Instead, he tried to outbox a master boxer. Usyk outboxes his opponents, hence the low KO ratio. To beat him, one must try to destroy him.
                Fury was slapping his shots and wasn't landing clean a lot.

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                • niceyboo3
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                  #18
                  There will be 6 10/10 rounds a fight

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                  • eco1
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                    #19
                    f u c k ai

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                    • Marchegiano
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                      #20
                      There are no models that can see live action in real time. It has to be told. sensors in gloves will not help it see punches missed. sensors in gloves will not help it see blocked punches. sensors in gloves will not help it see landing punches that do not point, or fouls.

                      No AI has scored a fight yet. All that has happened is Turki sat at GPT and fed it prompts.

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