Is Turki Alalshikh getting a return from his investment in boxing?

[tomhawq]

And yet there's so many people that still don't seem to understand that.

I have already mentioned the answer to this in post#37 of page 4, which is the one you cut.

"Even if the objective is not monetary gain, doesn't anyone or his own people want to know what the viewership # is; how many people he's reaching for whatever message he's delivering? TV shows and non PPVs are measured in ratings, which may have different reasons, but similar objectives."

I don't know about you but I for one am interested in the numbers, just to see comparisons whether the other platform is truly honest in their reporting of ppv numbers.

How about giving your own estimate on Turki's ppv numbers from past fights? Can you do that? Just ballpark figures in the US.

[brettWall]

And yet there's so many people that still don't seem to understand that.

You made it all sound like Turki Alalshikh's fights are free for everyone to pirate. They're still marketed as PPV fights for $40 in the US. Which means you still have to make a transaction online and be given a receipt as proof and permission to watch it. How much have you spent for these fights so far?

[crimsonfalcon07]

You made it all sound like Turki Alalshikh's fights are free for everyone to pirate. They're still marketed as PPV fights for $40 in the US. Which means you still have to make a transaction online and be given a receipt as proof and permission to watch it. How much have you spent for these fights so far?

No, I'm pointing out that the point of Saudi involvement isn't to make money. You still haven't looked up sportswashing yet? You are stuck on something that's completely irrelevant, I'm guessing because you're so poor that the mindset doesn't even compute for you.

If you're even asking if he's making a financial profit on the events you're missing the entire point. Until you get past that, you'll never even have a chance of understanding.

[brettWall]

No, I'm pointing out that the point of Saudi involvement isn't to make money. You still haven't looked up sportswashing yet? You are stuck on something that's completely irrelevant, I'm guessing because you're so poor that the mindset doesn't even compute for you.

If you're even asking if he's making a financial profit on the events you're missing the entire point. Until you get past that, you'll never even have a chance of understanding.

He can't answer a simple question. That says a lot and you can tell why he's got this everything about Turki is free mentality.

[crimsonfalcon07]

He can't answer a simple question. That says a lot and you can tell why he's got this everything about Turki is free mentality.

Nobody said everything about Turki is free, and it's bizarre that you are manufacturing such an inane strawman argument when it has nothing to do with the point.

You still have yet to answer my simple question: how much do you make every minute? I'm guessing the answer is fugh-all. Until you understand that you're not even close to asking the right questions, you will never understand the concept here. Which has been pointed out to you multiple times but you still don't get it. Really incredible, my guy.

Sports. Washing.

Money is irrelevant. Do you even know what that word means?

[jqSide]

Why don't you guys just cut to the chase and admit nobody is buying Alalshik's PPV's? Only a measly number buy PPV these days, all the more so with PBC fights because they're too expensive. Thieves are thieves. You can't say PBC fights are not pirated and Turki's are.

Therefore we gotta have real numbers of PPV results, not manufactured ones. You're lucky to get 50K PPV sales in this day and age of internet and the demise of cable tv's

[Sheikh]

I think the whole point is amplify the influence of the Kingdom but there's absolutely no point because you can get a much better Roi doing things other than spending on boxing. Boxers are tremendously overpaid beyond their commercial value and there's no point. You can do a lot more impact by investing in other sports that have higher viewership.

[jqSide]

I think the whole point is amplify the influence of the Kingdom but there's absolutely no point because you can get a much better Roi doing things other than spending on boxing. Boxers are tremendously overpaid beyond their commercial value and there's no point. You can do a lot more impact by investing in other sports that have higher viewership.

Which is why Showtime left boxing. HBO invested it in more profitable ventures like Game Of Thrones, which employed thousands of people from tailors, carpenters, extras, stuntmen, actors, designers, you name it. Average of $10 million per episode depending on the complexity of the scenes. In boxing $10 mil is still not enough for one person. That is if fakenews writers are to be believed.

[Groin Grabber]

He can't answer a simple question. That says a lot and you can tell why he's got this everything about Turki is free mentality.

Lmfao why you crying so much? That's the big question.

[JeBron Lamez]

I think the whole point is amplify the influence of the Kingdom but there's absolutely no point because you can get a much better Roi doing things other than spending on boxing. Boxers are tremendously overpaid beyond their commercial value and there's no point. You can do a lot more impact by investing in other sports that have higher viewership.

As others have pointed out many times in this thread, ROI is not a consideration.

Boxing is one of a miniscule number of sports that has events which are remembered for decades all around the world (think Louis vs Schmelling, Rumble in the Jungle, 'No Mas', Tyson's first defeat, Floyd vs Manny).

It isn't about the highest ROI or real-time audience whatsoever. It's about prestige, perception, politics & gaining recognition as a 'first world' nation.