Originally posted by joseph5620
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At 147-154, Prime for Prime, how would Floyd Mayweather Jr fair against these five Pro Boxers he beat in the past?
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Originally posted by Roadblock View Post
The irony is Manny is never mentioned beating ATG prime WWs he is too small and he got beat 8 times and Koed numerous times , but from 130 to 147 there is only a few pounds fight night between Manny Floyd and JMM , but because Floyd was so successful he has to be this huge figure lol, he is a small man and his best power to weight ratio was at 135, but because they couldn't beat him in real life the haters have got to create all these fantasy loses and trickery to justify their dislike, haters are the epitome of a Straw Man.
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Originally posted by TheGza View Postmayweather looked far from unbeatable against judah, maidana, castillo. not to mention he was naturally smaller than the listed fighters. prime for prime, he'd have his hand full.
at the same time he schooled jmm and hatton.
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Originally posted by djtmal View Post
It's easy to sit here in hindsight and say Floyd would have beat those guys because of this and this, but for most of those guys when he had the opportunity to make the fights he didn't.
So we can't say for sure who'd win any rematch, let alone ponder if floyd beats prime versions.
I think floyd lost to dlh, and pac. So don't see how he beats them in prime
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
I think any prime ATG ww would beat prime Floyd as he was 130-135 in his prime.
Hearns and Robinson were MW’s at the same age Floyd got to WW. Ray was still a WW but only had like 2 fights post Hearns because of the eye.Last edited by djtmal; 12-15-2024, 02:31 PM.
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Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
He literally beat all of them. No fantasy to it. The only fantasy is what you're posting. None of those fighters were able to beat Mayweather and nothing you say can change it. Facts. He wasn't in his prime when he beat them either.
"Zombie" Mosley was the WBA champion and on the top 10 pound for pound list at the time. He had just knocked out prime Margarito. There were even people claiming Mayweather was going to duck him. Mosley was not a "zombie." You're trying to rewrite history, aasuming there is nobody here that remembers the reality surronding that fight. It wasn't the false narrative you're trying to spin.
Also, Mayweather has never said he wasn't sure he could beat any of them. You made that up.
"Zombie" maybe an exaggaration to my part but Mosley was indeed past his prime when he fought Floyd. Again back to the OP topic, "Prime vs Prime"
Margarito was not exactly mentally there vs Mosley. The plaster scandal obviously affected him, knowing he would get suspended after the fight. Very Good win for Mosley but he wasn't fighting a top version of Margarito here, if we are being honest.
And i'm not sure what "narrative" you were talking about the Mosley fight. I only mentioned he hurts Floyd and it would be 50-50, if both were primes.
I didn't say Floyd said those words. I think you were reading way too much here. It is what i think of Floyd and what he did to protect his Zero.
You see i'm not using the word "Scared", because i don't think that was the reason. Floyd market is tied to his Zero, so he had to avoid certain fights to protect his brand. It's really not that hard to understand.
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Originally posted by elfag View Post
mosley refused to fight him due to a tooth ache
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Floyd's excuse was he wanted to chase somebodys title defense record, then Mosely jumped up to 147Last edited by djtmal; 12-15-2024, 03:32 PM.FaustoGeraci likes this.
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Originally posted by gamesworn View Post
Read the topic. OP asking Prime versions of these fighters vs Prime Floyd. So saying Floyd can defeat them in their primes is an actual Fantasy.
"Zombie" maybe an exaggaration to my part but Mosley was indeed past his prime when he fought Floyd. Again back to the OP topic, "Prime vs Prime"
Margarito was not exactly mentally there vs Mosley. The plaster scandal obviously affected him, knowing he would get suspended after the fight. Very Good win for Mosley but he wasn't fighting a top version of Margarito here, if we are being honest.
And i'm not sure what "narrative" you were talking about the Mosley fight. I only mentioned he hurts Floyd and it would be 50-50, if both were primes.
I didn't say Floyd said those words. I think you were reading way too much here. It is what i think of Floyd and what he did to protect his Zero.
You see i'm not using the word "Scared", because i don't think that was the reason. Floyd market is tied to his Zero, so he had to avoid certain fights to protect his brand. It's really not that hard to understand.
Mayweather wasn't in his prime either. They were not facing the best version of Mayweather for any of those fights so that goes both ways. Not just for his opponents.
Mosley knocked out a prime Margarito. Those are the facts and those are the only facts that can be used. You have no idea what was in Margarito's head so that's only your personal speculation. Nothing factual about it.
You said Mayweather didn't fight them because he wasn't sure he could beat them. Mayweather never said this and you have no idea what his thoughts were. Again that's your perspective that has no basis in anything factual. There are also other factors for why those fights happened when they did that you're leaving out to create the narrative that Mayweather ducked all of them. You don't have to use the word "scared" when you're implying it.Last edited by joseph5620; 12-15-2024, 03:39 PM.
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Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
Yeh, it's like saying floyd would've best past prime pac, dlh in a rematch, or even 5 out of 5 times of they fought that many times?.
So we can't say for sure who'd win any rematch, let alone ponder if floyd beats prime versions.
I think floyd lost to dlh, and pac. So don't see how he beats them in prime
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