Floyd was older and more washed than Manny when they fought. A younger Floyd beats him even more easily.
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At 147-154, Prime for Prime, how would Floyd Mayweather Jr fair against these five Pro Boxers he beat in the past?
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Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View PostI’d pick him to beat them all tbh. I always felt a younger Oscar would have given him big problems but I still think Floyd figures him out.
The only fighters I’d confidently pick to beat Floyd prime for prime are Ray Robinson, Ray Leonard and finally Tommy Hearns who I believe knocks him out.
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Originally posted by djtmal View Post
He ducked Manny and used blood work for an excuse
He ducked the Oscar rematch Oscar fought him too close for comfort
prime undefeated Cotto called him out but he was "on vacation"
Mosley called him out at lightweight the pretty boy version the Floyd boys salivate over, but Floyd said he was chasing some defenses record
Manny chose not to fight. That is on him as a man. You look extremely weak and gay for defending that decision by placing blame on Floyd.
As I stated, when these men were in their primes they wouldn’t fight Floyd because he was high risk, low reward, despite the fact he was smaller than all but Manny.
You can’t change history so stop trying.Last edited by The Big Dunn; 12-15-2024, 02:05 AM.
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Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View PostI’d pick him to beat them all tbh. I always felt a younger Oscar would have given him big problems but I still think Floyd figures him out.
The only fighters I’d confidently pick to beat Floyd prime for prime are Ray Robinson, Ray Leonard and finally Tommy Hearns who I believe knocks him out.
Hearns and Robinson were MW’s at the same age Floyd got to WW. Ray was still a WW but only had like 2 fights post Hearns because of the eye.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
I think any prime ATG ww would beat prime Floyd as he was 130-135 in his prime.
Hearns and Robinson were MW’s at the same age Floyd got to WW. Ray was still a WW but only had like 2 fights post Hearns because of the eye.Light_Speed
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Oscar De La Hoya would still be his toughest fight, also? You do realize that most of those fighters never fought the best versions of Floyd Mayweather Junior?
By the time Floyd Mayweather Junior fought Manny Pacquiao 'Mayweather's form and overall game had decreased way more than Pacquiao's. Floyd Mayweather Junior's last great fight was vs Canelo Alvarez, but even during that fight? Alvarez most likely would of been stopped by better versions of Floyd Mayweather Junior'.
Therefore, I honestly believe that Floyd Mayweather Junior beats all of those fighters 'But Oscar De La Hoya would be his toughest and most competitive fight'..
Stylistically Canelo Alvarez is his easiest fight 'Alvarez has proven since his fight vs Mayweather Junior. The attributes of his game which Mayweather was able to exploit i.e lack of gears, under par endurance levels, and under-par movement compared to a elite level fighter like Floyd Mayweather Junior. Those areas of Canelo Alvarez's game have not really improved greatly since he was fighting in the Welter Weight Divisions.
In fact they may have even decreased, because? Dmitry Bivol beat Canelo Alvarez by utilizing a game plan and fight tactics, which exploited those same areas of Canelo Alvarez's boxing game.
Note: If I had to chose which one of those fighters, Floyd Mayweather Junior was going to stop 'Then that fighter would be Canelo Alvarez. Mayweather Junior during their original fight on 14th September 2013. In my opinion could of forced a stoppage vs Canelo Alvarez if he put more effort into his offensive attacks, and increased the intensity during the latter rounds in the fight. But instead Floyd Mayweather Junior chose to just out box, and accumulate points vs Canelo Alvarez still winning the fight by miles 12 - 0? Mayweather won pretty much every single round in the fight, and was never forced to really enter into his upper fight gears. That fight was truly Floyd Mayweather Junior's last great performance, after this fight there was a clear decrease in his overall game. This can be observed in his two fights vs Marcos Maidana I & II'.
As other posters have stated in this thread, stylistically Oscar De La Hoya, Shane Mosely and Miguel Cotto. Seem to be Floyd Mayweather Junior's most difficult fights, and I agree with this perception. Manny Pacquiao would still be a extremely dangerous fight, but only due to his ballistic type attacks? Skill for skill I still believe that Floyd Mayweather Junior would be able to more easily win rounds, and accumulate points vs Manny Pacquiao than he would up against fighters such as De La Hoya, Mosley and Cotto.
Manny Pacquiao really should be beaten Floyd Mayweather Junior when they fought in 2015. It was only Floyd Mayweather Junior's superior skill level, which enabled him to win the fight. At that stage of Mayweather's career, a multitude of his fight attributes had markedly decreased. Mayweather Junior's brute strength, and ability to throw combinations had decreased, which forced him to fight with tactics that emphasized the accumulation of scoring points, instead of systematically beating down his opponent's'.
To conclude: Floyd Mayweather Junior beat better versions of Oscar De La Hoya, Miguel Cotto, and Shane Mosley than Manny Pacquiao 'Oscar De La Hoya and Miguel Cotto where not weight drained vs Mayweather Junior. Both Oscar De La Hoya and Miguel Cotto were able fight Mayweather Junior at 154 pounds, which was their strongest and most preferred weight divisions at that stage of their careers.
Manny Pacquiao fought Oscar De La Hoya at a ridiculous catch weight of 145 pounds. De La Hoya had not fought at 147 pounds for 7 years. And also Pacquiao fought Miguel Cotto at a completely unnecessary catch weight of 146 pounds, Cotto was still in awesome condition but? The catch weight was unnecessary and in my opinion not really needed. That win by Manny Pacquiao is still a great win.
Miguel Cotto prior to fighting Mayweather Junior avenge a traumatic loss to Antonio Margarito II 'And even after Miguel Cotto was beaten by Floyd Mayweather Junior. Cotto achieved one of his greatest boxing wins, by beating Sergio Martinez winning the Lineal Ring Magazine and WBC Middle Weight titles'.
So, overall I would back Floyd Mayweather Junior at his absolute best to still beat all of those fighters 'But Oscar De La Hoya would be his toughest battle. His easily fights stylistically would be against Canelo Alvarez and Manny Pacquiao etc.
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Originally posted by gamesworn View PostHe beats them all in fantasy land only. Why do you guys think he fought all these guys past their primes (Except Canelo who wasn't at his peak either and drained at 152). Even Floyd himself wasn't sure he can beat them at their peaks, had to wait years to make sure. Only his fanboys thinks he can beat them all easy lol
Canelo's Prime is 160-168. He would still be drained at 155. This is the only fight i think Floyd can actually defeat easy
Cotto wasn't that old and actually more experience when they fought. Same result. Competitive fight with Floyd winning
Zombie Mosley hurts Floyd. Just imagine peak Mosley, who was more explosive. 50-50
Past prime Dela Hoya had close fight against Floyd. Again imagine a prime version of Dela Hoya who was more active. I think he has the best chance to pull off the win.
Prime Pac vs Prime Floyd, sadly we will never know. 2010 Pac and 2015 Pac are two completely different fighters. Floyd still has the reach and height advantages. It won't be easy for Pac but that what makes it interesting. 50-50 fight. Imagine having only Duran vs Leonard III without the Part 1, you would think Duran had no chance against prime SRL.
"Zombie" Mosley was the WBA champion and on the top 10 pound for pound list at the time. He had just knocked out prime Margarito. There were even people claiming Mayweather was going to duck him. Mosley was not a "zombie." You're trying to rewrite history, assuming there is nobody here that remembers the reality surrounding that fight. It wasn't the false narrative you're trying to spin.
Also, Mayweather has never said he wasn't sure he could beat any of them. You made that up.Last edited by joseph5620; 12-15-2024, 09:34 PM.
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