Any special accolades for Teofimo for moving up and taking on the top guy in the next division?

[maguirre]

It's a simple question.

[jessica10199]

Stepping up to face a top fighter in a higher weight class is a bold move that many boxers shy away from. I think so :x

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[crimsonfalcon07]

That's literally why Teo was ranked as highly on P4P lists as he was, even though Taylor in retrospect was shot by then. He got lots of credit for Loma as well, even though Loma was injured and went into surgery the next day. If Crawford would actually deign to fight him, and he could somehow win, he'd be right back on the P4P lists.

For reference, Inoue has fought the best available guy in his divisional debut 3 times now, and very few people seem to care about that. They still act like the lighter weight divisions are irrelevant. People are very inconsistent. If you can't appreciate a guy who has scored more 10-8 rounds than his opponents have scored 10-9 rounds against him, you probably also can't appreciate crazy Teo, with his loss to Kambosos and his gift decisions vs Sandor Martin and Jamaine Ortiz.

[El_Mero]

Deserves em for sure, especially if he manages to beat Email Ennis

[tomhawq]

Jaron Boots Ennis got tons of accolades for just dismantling Custio Clayton. Got offered a lucrative fight with Vergil Ortiz who is not big, as Tim Bradley stated, but Boots said, "Nah, I'm good."

[Marchegiano]

I don't give him **** for losing. If he wasn't moving up I'd give him hella business

[tomhawq]

Robert Garcia PICKS Teofimo to beat Ennis...

There you go...

[IronDanHamza]

You have to respect Teofimo. He’s took challenges.

If he’s moves up and beats Ennis it’s huge. Who knows? Maybe he will. I’m far from sold on Ennis.

[Blond Beast]

For reference, Inoue has fought the best available guy in his divisional debut 3 times now, and very few people seem to care about that. They still act like the lighter weight divisions are irrelevant. People are very inconsistent. If you can't appreciate a guy who has scored more 10-8 rounds than his opponents have scored 10-9 rounds against him, you probably also can't appreciate crazy Teo, with his loss to Kambosos and his gift decisions vs Sandor Martin and Jamaine Ortiz.

Huge Inoue fan. Still moving up from those lower/lowest weight classes and beating the best guy will never be worth as much as the bigger jumps. The jumps are only 3lbs or 4lbs. One division could be a 4lb jump then the next up is only 3lbs. You are never going to see some crazy tall guy down there like you might see in the higher weight classes. There isn’t as much international participation at those lower weights. To be fair it’s not like there is a bunch of Mexican heavyweights either which would be great. Nobody at the lower weights is going to towered over or weigh significantly less than their opponent. A litre of water weighs 2.2lbs so if you cut to make weight then drank 2.3L of water you have already jumped two divisions. I know each weight class gets to do that, so I get that. Still nobody is going to say “he looks two divisions bigger than his opponent”. Nobody seems to care that light heavy to cruiser is three times the jump from middle to light heavy? Nobody gets mad if a heavy is six inches taller and 50lbs heavier than their opponent.
I think Inoue is a piece of twisted steel and in the top 3 p4p. Truth is he will get the most credit once it actually looks like it affects him.

[crimsonfalcon07]

Huge Inoue fan. Still moving up from those lower/lowest weight classes and beating the best guy will never be worth as much as the bigger jumps. The jumps are only 3lbs or 4lbs. One division could be a 4lb jump then the next up is only 3lbs. You are never going to see some crazy tall guy down there like you might see in the higher weight classes. There isn’t as much international participation at those lower weights. To be fair it’s not like there is a bunch of Mexican heavyweights either which would be great. Nobody at the lower weights is going to towered over or weigh significantly less than their opponent. A litre of water weighs 2.2lbs so if you cut to make weight then drank 2.3L of water you have already jumped two divisions. I know each weight class gets to do that, so I get that. Still nobody is going to say “he looks two divisions bigger than his opponent”. Nobody seems to care that light heavy to cruiser is three times the jump from middle to light heavy? Nobody gets mad if a heavy is six inches taller and 50lbs heavier than their opponent.
I think Inoue is a piece of twisted steel and in the top 3 p4p. Truth is he will get the most credit once it actually looks like it affects him.

There's a lot more to it than weight though, which is why people can get knocked out or dominated 11-1 at light heavy, and go straight from the loss at 175 to a title eliminator or title shot at 200. And the skill level is just lower, although the power level is higher.

Another point is that, precisely BECAUSE of those smaller weight gaps, it's historically and statistically harder to become a multi division champ at lighter weight classes because it's harder to maintain dominance across multiple weight classes.

That weight gap at heavy is probably the biggest reason that Usyk gets rated ahead of Inoue or Crawford though, and Bud gets his plumes for being in welterweight, even though it's a dead division now. Spence was considered P4P on the strength of being a single division champion with 6 defenses, but there's guys like Knockout CP Freshmart, who sent undefeated and held his title for nearly 10 years and 18 title defenses who never even get considered for P4P.

And there are absolutely guys who are much bigger than their opponents on fight night, and look divisions bigger. That's common, TBH, and makes me think you probably don't really watch fights at lower weight divisions. Rafael Espinoza, for instance, is 6'1' at featherweight. There were guys who started at flyweight who were 5'11".