Comments Thread For: Stephen Espinoza: Jaron Ennis not at fault for Vergil Ortiz Jnr fallout

[MulaKO]

I can understand your reasoning, but I personally wouldn't lower my pay that I had originally agreed to in contract. For all we know, Boots' might have pushed Eddie and Eddie might have asked Boots' "We taking the extra $500k off your pay"? To which Boots might have said "no, not off my pay".

As per the Virgil fight, that's different. There was no issue with money as Turki was meeting everyone's financial desires. Boots just didn't want to fight Virgil, that's very apparent, in my opinion.

Tell you what ; Boots is the loser in all this and frowned upon
That belt was money and would shut everyone up also
Long run that 500 would gotten him bigger money
Loma did it and I don’t recall the other boxer who recently took money off the top to get the fight

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

Tell you what ; Boots is the loser in all this and frowned upon
That belt was money and would shut everyone up also
Long run that 500 would gotten him bigger money
Loma did it and I don’t recall the other boxer who recently took money off the top to get the fight

I agree

[tomhawq]

Canelo made guarantee adjustments in the Plant fight. And the Mexican superstar was seething in anger just seeing Caleb's face in presscons.

[tomhawq]

You keep saying Ennis has no control over his own career, which includes making adjustments. Why? Is he a child? ESPN/TR, for example, offered a budget of X amount for the Teo vs Loma fight. That's what they thought was the size of the fight and all they can afford. Promoters at first decides the split percentages. Lopez wanted more, but Loma lowered his and made adjustments so the fight can happen. It did. Loma did the same in the Rigo fight. And the Ukrainian fighter is not even someone who had a hard time securing other fights.

Another example is the Shakur vs Martin negotiations. Apparently, networks and promoters come up with a set figure for both fighters. And they allow fighters to split the budget among themselves. Since Shakur is the A-side, he offered Martin $1 million, which Frank turned down. LSS, he ended up fighting Edwin De Los Santos, who accepted $250K, according to Jamel Herring. I'm not focused on who is to blame in the Martin fight here, but it seems clear, promoters allow fighters to make deals among themselves so that fights can happen, depending on who wants it more. It takes two to tango.

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

Canelo made guarantee adjustments in the Plant fight. And the Mexican superstar was seething in anger just seeing Caleb's face in presscons.

Not sure, but Canelo's guarantee for the fight was $40 million, that's not including the PPV upsales...

[rickJen]

Tell you what ; Boots is the loser in all this and frowned upon
That belt was money and would shut everyone up also
Long run that 500 would gotten him bigger money
Loma did it and I don’t recall the other boxer who recently took money off the top to get the fight

Spence............
Depending on how you estimate Bud's worth or how much he really deserved.

[MulaKO]

Spence............
Depending on how you estimate Bud's worth or how much he really deserved.

You lost me

[illwill085]

Ennis has been ducking fights long before he joined Matchroom. Literally turned down an offer to fight Bud "out of loyalty to Showtime" which ain't even in the boxing business now. How's that for loyalty? Bozy has turned dangerous fights down before without even telling Jaron. He's earned his Duck badge.

Ortiz on the other hand. Name one fighter he ducked. Nearly died trying to fight Stanionis at 147. I doubt anyone can name a single fighter he didn't say yes to.

Ennis never ducked a fight you dummy. Bud wasn't signed to blk and even the blk president said bud wasn't signed to offer that fight, we called with a proposal to see if he was interested before we tried, boots said he was, but spence didn't have to fight thurman and ibf said he could either fight boots or unify so they made bud vs spence idiot.

Who did vergil duck? Are you that ******ed, he refused to fight boots in ibf eliminator, he was called on as buds mandatory in wbo and refused it 2x giving the fight to porter and he refused to give bohchuk a rematch when bohchuk really beat him.

As for loyalty, boots cant make a back door agreement and go to blk and fight dummy, he would be sued. It's called a contract and you sign it for a reason. Bud was a free agent, he could of signed a 1 fight deal with pbc and fought boots, jist like he did with spence dummy

[illwill085]

Ennis' supporters and fans naturally swerve the blame on Hearn, Hoya, Turki, their dogs, except Boots.

Even if those are true, Jaron still had to do something. Negotiations are not final. That's why they're called negotiations. Question is, do you want the fight or not? Everything else is irrelevant.

Don't really know what the big deal is about not knowing anything about the negotiations. Now you knew. Now what?

There was no negotions the contract was already made and offered to bud and fundora first. Boots was already in negotiations with stanionis and he wanted to unify over anything. Aside from that they gave boots 24 hrs to decide.

[illwill085]

What gets me is Boots fans brag on what somebody else did. Bochuk did this and did that to Ortiz. I think they are waiting for Boots to turn into superman or they are Bochunk fans on the sly.

I rhink they're saying why would boots be worried about ortiz when a 1 dimensional fighter jist beat ****cdown his leg