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  • #61
    Only race fans show sympathy for cheaters. Look how Clenelo and Garcia are being hailed by their race. These same cowardly racists act as if Garcia won fair.
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    • #62
      Originally posted by DClefthook View Post

      Haneys are weirdo racists loud mouths? Huh??? What??? Anyone else you know are WEIRDO RACISTS LOUDMOUTHS?
      no I think that the only ones

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      • #63
        Originally posted by BoxingUpdates View Post
        Each sport has its own set of unspoken rules, customs that are not to be violated lest you reveal yourself as a pretender or mere casual fan, but no code requires a morality check like that of boxing. With little regard for the sheer bravery it takes just to climb into the ring, fighters can be criticized for not running straight into the toughest bouts possible, for getting hit too much, for not getting hit enough (because this simply isn't sufficiently entertaining), for not showing a great chin (though this isn't a factor fighters can fully control), for retiring too early, for retiring too late, for giving inconsiderate interviews despite being concussed, and just about anything else you can think of.
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        This is the best thing I’ve read on this platform.

        I wonder though if it’ll make those keyboard warriors reflect a little.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Claude Palle View Post
          This guy talks about a moral code. How many fighters cycle off P.E.D's without getting caught? How many are weight bullies? This society is too litigious as it is. Legal action opens a can of worms. Do we want fighters to get in the habit of suing each other whenever they feel wronged?
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          Whenever they feel wronged”? Garcia came in over weight and used PEDs!!

          I’ve never cared for Haney but damn! This writer was speaking about you for sho. You’d be ok if your son was bamboozled in boxing or any contact sport if his opponent popped up dirty I’m guessing?
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          • #65
            Originally posted by True-boxing-fan 2.0 View Post
            If you are a boxing fan and not a fanboy you should have a problem with him suing Ryan. What’s it going to accomplish??

            If he’s suing so it deters other fighter from fighting dirty. Then he needs to sue the commission for allowing a dirty fighter to fight. How the hell you going to have testing but only the ability to catch someone after the fact. That’s the commissions fault and the ones to blame for having a dirty fighter fight.

            Plus Haney works with Conte. A serial abuser with the system. If you don’t think he’s able to input a training regime that can allow athletes to still pass any test then you are crazy. The fact this dude is still allowed to work with athletes is nuts.
            A fanboy ? Read my comment again , slowly this time. Understand it before you respond. I'm a fan of doing the right thing and being an honorable man.
            As far as I know , the commission didn't know before the fight that Garcia was going to piss dirty. The only one who did something wrong was Ryan Garcia , period.
            If you have any evidence that Victor Conte is still involved in illegal supplements and helping fighters pass tests while dirty , by all means share that evidence with the rest of us and a boxing commission. Until then it's just blah , blah , blah that doesn't change the fact that Garcia pissed dirty.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
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              Whenever they feel wronged”? Garcia came in over weight and used PEDs!!

              I’ve never cared for Haney but damn! This writer was speaking about you for sho. You’d be ok if your son was bamboozled in boxing or any contact sport if his opponent popped up dirty I’m guessing?
              Obviously you do not get the point. Garcia got "caught". Doesn't mean a lot of other guys aren't cycling off. Same with major league baseball. Some steroid users are in the hall of fame, the one's that got caught aren't. Would you be okay if your son was severely hurt by a weight bully like Haney? I doubt it but you chime in anyway.

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              • #67
                I've been saying this.

                Boxing aint shxt because it's fans aint shxt.

                Instead of being happy that one of boxing's pound for pound stars is potentially putting his reputation on the line to clean up the sport, fangirls are more concerned with dogging him out because they either don't like his father, are Tank/Floyd stans, who hate all Black fighters who don't work for PBC, or are fans of racist ass Ryan Garcia.

                All of these people are the scum of the Earth & keep boxing from being respected the way it's supposed to be.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Claude Palle View Post

                  Obviously you do not get the point. Garcia got "caught". Doesn't mean a lot of other guys aren't cycling off. Same with major league baseball. Some steroid users are in the hall of fame, the one's that got caught aren't. Would you be okay if your son was severely hurt by a weight bully like Haney? I doubt it but you chime in anyway.
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                  Your rebuttal about Haney’s weight is just nonsense. Does he make weight? Yes or No? It’s that simple.

                  That’s a boxing problem.

                  Spence was making 147. Until he couldn’t
                  Cotto was making 147. Until he couldn’t
                  Canelo has fought as high as 175 yet he fought at 154. Was he weight bully?
                  Is Ryan a weight bully? He couldn’t make 140 so I’d say yes.
                  Is Benavidez a weight bully?

                  And to answer your question, I have the option not to make my son fight any weight bully because it’s pretty visible. How exactly would anyone know Ryan was on PEDs

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
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                    Your rebuttal about Haney’s weight is just nonsense. Does he make weight? Yes or No? It’s that simple.

                    That’s a boxing problem.

                    Spence was making 147. Until he couldn’t
                    Cotto was making 147. Until he couldn’t
                    Canelo has fought as high as 175 yet he fought at 154. Was he weight bully?
                    Is Ryan a weight bully? He couldn’t make 140 so I’d say yes.
                    Is Benavidez a weight bully?

                    And to answer your question, I have the option not to make my son fight any weight bully because it’s pretty visible. How exactly would anyone know Ryan was on PEDs
                    You sound like one of those dudes who would sue at the drop of a hat. That's why this world is the way that it is. You obviously do not know what a weight bully is. It's not moving up in weight. It's fighting guys who move up and then showing up on fight night way heavier than the other guy. I was at Jaime Mungia's fight against Sadam Ali. Mungia was twice his size, yet they both made weight. Hence a "weight bully".

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Claude Palle View Post

                      You sound like one of those dudes who would sue at the drop of a hat. That's why this world is the way that it is. You obviously do not know what a weight bully is. It's not moving up in weight. It's fighting guys who move up and then showing up on fight night way heavier than the other guy. I was at Jaime Mungia's fight against Sadam Ali. Mungia was twice his size, yet they both made weight. Hence a "weight bully".
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                      You can respond without the theatrics of personalizing your response, WHICH IS ABOUT BOXING. Ever heard of the phrase Ad Hominem?

                      Boxing is prolly the most corrupt sport on the planet. The promoters are corrupt, judges are corrupt and the refs can be paid. We have Victor Conte who went to prison for being the face of doping working with active boxers today. It is insane.

                      Boxing is a contract. Nobody is being forced to fight. You sign a contract and you see the devil in all the details. Haney got his comeuppance when Ryan came in heavy. Haney is not suing Ryan for that because he accepted a payout and made a deal with the devil. Ryan popped dirty. Period.

                      The US in general is a nation of lawsuits so as much as o don’t care for Haney and I’m glad he got his äss handed to him, I am not criticizing him for suing Ryan. It’s all business.

                      As for you weight bully definition, every single guy that Floyd fought was bigger than him. He moved up 5 times and was perennially the smaller guy except when he fought Marquez. Was he a victim of weight bullies?

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