Comments Thread For: Boxing's lack of support for Devin Haney is evidence of a soulless sport

[Claude Palle]

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You can respond without the theatrics of personalizing your response, WHICH IS ABOUT BOXING. Ever heard of the phrase Ad Hominem?

Boxing is prolly the most corrupt sport on the planet. The promoters are corrupt, judges are corrupt and the refs can be paid. We have Victor Conte who went to prison for being the face of doping working with active boxers today. It is insane.

Boxing is a contract. Nobody is being forced to fight. You sign a contract and you see the devil in all the details. Haney got his comeuppance when Ryan came in heavy. Haney is not suing Ryan for that because he accepted a payout and made a deal with the devil. Ryan popped dirty. Period.

The US in general is a nation of lawsuits so as much as o don’t care for Haney and I’m glad he got his äss handed to him, I am not criticizing him for suing Ryan. It’s all business.

As for you weight bully definition, every single guy that Floyd fought was bigger than him. He moved up 5 times and was perennially the smaller guy except when he fought Marquez. Was he a victim of weight bullies?

By Floyd, you obviously mean Mayweather. An all time great. Does that mean that weight bullying is okay? As far as suing? This country is litigation happy, and you think that is a good thing? You mention Victor Conte? Do I have any proof that he is still involved in shady P.E.D practices? No, but I wouldn't bet against it. Where there any MLB players who were beaned by P.E.D using pitchers? Probably. Should they sue? Where do we differ? I do not believe that these types of lawsuits belong in sports. Period!

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Dude Conte was a scientist whose goal was to be able to skirt the steroid testing system. If you think he’s turned over a leaf and is on the straight and narrow after his punish then you are prolly a person who would support a pedophile to work in a daycare after he served his time and claimed they are changed.

Ae far as Ryan is concerned, he is a cheater. There is no changing that fact. But if Devin is going cry, complain, and sue. Suing Ryan is not the route.

Devin said he is suing because Ryan did him all wrong starting with not making a contracted weight and getting caught with PEDs. Factcif once Ryan came in heavy and didn’t want to try and lose the weight Devin should have walked. Once he accepted the compensation for Ryan being overweight he loses all ability to complain after.

Secondly he said Ryan put his health and money at risk because of PEDs. Fact is they had testing in their fight. If he’s going to sue for damages as a result of PEDs. It would have more merit ti sue the commission for allowing a dirty fighter to fight. It’s crazy to have a testing system in place where they can’t catch people before the fight. That’s nuts and it doesn’t have to be that way. How is the commission protecting Devin or other fighters if they can only catch people after the fact.

Fact is Devin and his dad got ruined and don’t know where to go from him.

I stopped reading after you tried to make an assumption and then compare it to pedophilia. Youre that desperate to make a point. Youre a sick fk that doesn’t warrant any further attention.

[Oregonian]

I stopped reading after you tried to make an assumption and then compare it to pedophilia. Youre that desperate to make a point. Youre a sick fk that doesn’t warrant any further attention.

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He was being hypothetical. But let’s simplify it - do you believe Conte is now a changed man? This is a simple yes or no question.
If your answer is yes, then it warrants the example he used.

[Oregonian]

By Floyd, you obviously mean Mayweather. An all time great. Does that mean that weight bullying is okay? As far as suing? This country is litigation happy, and you think that is a good thing? You mention Victor Conte? Do I have any proof that he is still involved in shady P.E.D practices? No, but I wouldn't bet against it. Where there any MLB players who were beaned by P.E.D using pitchers? Probably. Should they sue? Where do we differ? I do not believe that these types of lawsuits belong in sports. Period!

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You are the one that’s fixated with weights. If two fighters make the same weight, the fight is fair. Floyd beat everyone that outweighed him.

I never said litigation is a good thing. It’s just part of our society.

As for Conte, I’ll just give you someone’s perfect description of Conte

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Dude Conte was a scientist whose goal was to be able to skirt the steroid testing system. If you think he’s turned over a leaf and is on the straight and narrow after his punish then you are prolly a person who would support a pedophile to work in a daycare after he served his time and claimed they are changed.
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Conte should NEVER be allowed to work in sports advising guys on nutrition just like a pedo should NEVER be allowed to work at a daycare.

Let’s use a different example, do you think a boxer with loaded gloves like Margacheato should not be sued?

[Jab jab boom]

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He was being hypothetical. But let’s simplify it - do you believe Conte is now a changed man? This is a simple yes or no question.
If your answer is yes, then it warrants the example he used.

I don’t know him so I can’t say for sure but saying that he’s still helping boxers cheat is based on speculation and nothing else. The fact remains Ryan got popped, Haney never has.

[Oregonian]

I don’t know him so I can’t say for sure but saying that he’s still helping boxers cheat is based on speculation and nothing else. The fact remains Ryan got popped, Haney never has.

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Haney works with Conte - the mastermind of the BALCO scandal. This guy developed PED programs for high-level Olympic and other professional athletes, using undetectable substances for years.

Of course Ryan popped dirty. Watch Ryan acquire Conte’s services and he never pops dirty just like Haney.

[Jab jab boom]

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Haney works with Conte - the mastermind of the BALCO scandal. This guy developed PED programs for high-level Olympic and other professional athletes, using undetectable substances for years.

Of course Ryan popped dirty. Watch Ryan acquire Conte’s services and he never pops dirty just like Haney.

You’re still operating on speculation, not on fact.

[Claude Palle]

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You are the one that’s fixated with weights. If two fighters make the same weight, the fight is fair. Floyd beat everyone that outweighed him.

I never said litigation is a good thing. It’s just part of our society.

As for Conte, I’ll just give you someone’s perfect description of Conte

True-boxing-fan 2.0 View Post
Dude Conte was a scientist whose goal was to be able to skirt the steroid testing system. If you think he’s turned over a leaf and is on the straight and narrow after his punish then you are prolly a person who would support a pedophile to work in a daycare after he served his time and claimed they are changed.
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Conte should NEVER be allowed to work in sports advising guys on nutrition just like a pedo should NEVER be allowed to work at a daycare.

Let’s use a different example, do you think a boxer with loaded gloves like Margacheato should not be sued?

I am not fixated on anything. My point is that these types of lawsuits are frivolous. You believe that athletes should sue each other, I disagree. It's that simple!

[Oregonian]

You’re still operating on speculation, not on fact.

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I’m sticking with precedent. The legal system in the US does exactly that as well.

I imagine you’d be very surprised if Conte was caught up in some other PED shenanigans? Seriously, would you be surprised?

[Jab jab boom]

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I’m sticking with precedent. The legal system in the US does exactly that as well.

I imagine you’d be very surprised if Conte was caught up in some other PED shenanigans? Seriously, would you be surprised?

Wouldn’t be surprised about anything when it comes to cheating in sports but the fact remains that you’re operating on speculation. Should we assume Ryan has cheated every fight he’s had and will cheat in all future fights? Same with Canelo?