Comments Thread For: Boxing's lack of support for Devin Haney is evidence of a soulless sport

[factsarenice]

Creating and fostering Tribalism is a tool, and also, the simplest most effective way for the powerful to divide and concur. Tribalism in boxing has always existed but not to the point that reality was lost in the fervor. Today tribalism is the tool being used to paint Turki Alalshikh as the boogeyman and ostensibly prop up managers, promoters, networks to maintain the status quo, even if it keeps boxing dirty.

As for drug usage, by today's estimate 8 in 10 annual fighters are cycling on and off performance enhancing drugs.... and yes, that includes your favorite guy so don't expect the top earners to lead the fight. The suit to prosecute PEDS has similarities to Sean Combs in that the big names won't speak out in fear of their own guilt and loss of income.

Of course, the Haney's would like to make Devin's lack of popularity a case of good guy vs bad, but it's not that simple and fans seem to know that. The Haney's, if people remember, were more than willing to accept 3 pounds believing their opponent was sooooo mentally handicapped that he might die in the ring. Devin's lack of popularity isn't that he lost but that he's so often grossly disrespectful, overly promoted and under-delivered. Sure Garcia is a hot, mentally, deranged mess but that doesn't explain Devin's use of loopholes to unnaturally explode within 24hrs to 3 weight classes bigger and frankly, non-casuals don't appreciate that any more than Gatti bludgeoning Joey Gamache.

In the end the article makes the point, "We search desperately for heroes and toss aside those who break the rules". A more profound statement could not be made in a country that will choose between a prosecutor of the law and a felon and convicted rapist.

[Cyborg Fangerloo]

Haney you should know that boxing fans in general have no concept of grace or mercy. One slip and they hate you forever. Quite sad to say, but it is true.

[crimsonfalcon07]

This situation isn't just black and white, so to speak. Both Haney and Garcia earned lots of bad press through their own behavior. Don't know why we're trying to make it about good guys and bad guys. They're both bad guys for different reasons.

[DClefthook]

Haney are weirdo racists loud mouths who talk **** and can't take it. they are unlikable ppl

Haneys are weirdo racists loud mouths? Huh??? What??? Anyone else you know are WEIRDO RACISTS LOUDMOUTHS?

[Tibburon245]

Haney has a future so fans should support him since he did nothing wrong. Ryan is the primadonna who did what he wanted. Make a rematch but with no drugs and same weight.

[PNUT901]

I don't have a problem with Haney suing Garcia. They had a business contract, Garcia broke the contract by popping hot and in the process has greatly diminished the business of Devin Haney as evinced by Haneys proposed purse versus Martin.
Coulda , woulda , shoulda has nothing to do with it. We can only guess what might have happened or not happened if Garcia had been clean , the only fact is that he WASN'T CLEAN. It's really cut and dried. Either you honored the contract or you didn't. All of the keyboard commandos saying that Haney should just beat his ass are missing the part where if there was a rematch, Haney would be getting a significantly smaller purse because of what happened in the first fight.
I was happy to see Haney get beat up , I was hoping that the fight would go like it did , but I'm not ok with Garcia cheating just because I wanted him to win. I think that a lot of the people who are making excuses for Garcia wouldn't feel the same way if the shoe was on the other foot. If your take is that you're cool with Garcia cheating because you're a fan of his , just be honest and say that instead of making excuses about what drug he took or how much of it showed up in the piss test. Excuses that are too easy to blow holes in. Be proud of your hypocrisy.
If it was two guys fighting in the street then suing is dumb and a bytch move , but this wasn't that. This is Haney suing in his capacity as a business.

[PNUT901]

Haney you should know that boxing fans in general have no concept of grace or mercy. One slip and they hate you forever. Quite sad to say, but it is true.

True that , the combination of the Internet and Boxing seem to bring out the worst in people. You see it here all of the time. People can't have a difference of opinion about anything without insults and ugliness ensuing. People say things that they'd never say in person.

[Corelone]

When Haney took money to let Ryan cheat, he sold out everybody who bet on him. In my mind, that's prostitution. Now he's crying because he got screwed. Like Ryan was going to buy some lotion.

[Bullrider]

Haney himself is not even a paragon of the sweet science virtue. He grabs the opponent's waist, then try to sneak a punch while holding. He paid dearly with a combo that put him reeling on the canvas, which made it as one of the viral highlights in the Garcia debacle. He's not exactly the type you would want to root for. He's also seen sucker punching a lone guy in a fair surrounded by his buddies.

[BrankoB]

When you are writing an article with a title like that you are literally leading with your chin and on this forum you are going to get clipped again and again and again.

It does not take a brain surgeon to know that nobody likes Devin Haney and his dad. You just have to spend five minutes reading a few comments and they are all going to be negative. It has nothing to do with Ryan Garcia taking steroids or not. Nobody liked Haney before that fight and nobody likes him even more after the fight. He was a boring, weight bully with an overinflated sense of self importance. His dad is an outspoken clown that everybody just loves to hate. Both of them are just simply unlikable and nothing is going to change that. Nobody really knows if he is taking anything or not (as in PEDs) but it does not matter. People just don't like the father and son combination and every time they open their mouth to get in the news again and stay relevant, it gets even worse.