Mayweather and PAC unintentionally hurt boxing badly

[Haka]

You are ignoring the fact that it is highly likely Margarito cheated that fight with Cotto... So there, I said it now. I respect those who feel otherwise, but to some of us it cannot be ignored, especially considering what Cotto did to Margarito the second fight. "Champ" means nothing. It is relative... There are more champs than contenders these days! I never said margarito was a ducker. Margarito beat Sergio... But Citron and the other fighters he beat were solid and not great fighters.

Floyd did not have the greatest resume for an ATG, but it is a hll of a lot better than Margaritos! But lets play devil's advocate here: lets say Margarito was a champ, he beat Clottey and Cintron two decent fighters... He got a great scalp in martinez... Lets see what happened when margarito stepped up: Mosley, Cotto and Pac. This tells me Floyd was right to avoid the fight. Margarito was never able to step up.

Clottey, another fully fledged WW that Floyd ducked in spite of those smaller 140 fighters w all those numerous losses nobody asked for, Cotto had all the problems in the world dealing with Clottey. The Clottey of back then would beat Ennis with ease at 147 in the current era.

[billeau2]

Clottey, another fully fledged WW that Floyd ducked in spite of those smaller 140 fighters w all those numerous losses nobody asked for, Cotto had all the problems in the world dealing with Clottey. The Clottey of back then would beat Ennis with ease at 147 in the current era.

These guys were decent fighters they were not special. Fighters who are decent present good competition even to great fighters. I don't know how Ennis at this stage in his career compares to Clottey.

If you look at Clottey's record, he too lost to the marquee level of competition. It's just like I'm trying to tell you it's not that c l o t t e y is a bad fighter. But you can clearly see when he stepped up he lost just like margarita which is no incentive for other marquee fighters to take a fight with such a fighter.

[Haka]

These guys were decent fighters they were not special. Fighters who are decent present good competition even to great fighters. I don't know how Ennis at this stage in his career compares to Clottey.

If you look at Clottey's record, he too lost to the marquee level of competition. It's just like I'm trying to tell you it's not that c l o t t e y is a bad fighter. But you can clearly see when he stepped up he lost just like margarita which is no incentive for other marquee fighters to take a fight with such a fighter.

You are defending those Guerrero, Jmm, Ortiz, Maidana fights but they were all bums. Says it all really.

[ImDominicanLipz]

You are defending those Guerrero, Jmm, Ortiz, Maidana fights but they were all bums. Says it all really.

JMM was a bum? You can exit

[Haka]

JMM was a bum? You can exit

At welterweight they had no resumes , we’re unproven and came from smaller weights.

[ImDominicanLipz]

At welterweight they had no resumes , we’re unproven and came from smaller weights.

JMM went on to have a SD with a prime Bradley, beat Mike Alvarado in Fight of the year and accomplished the best feat of any fighter at welterweight when he KO'd Pacquiao.

[Hustle]

and yet we never got prime floyd v prime pac

mosley & cotto were late and other big fights never happened as well

floyd was like canelo is now, whoever he fought gets him what he wanted, i think

Floyd never fought guys who never been champion on ppv like canelo.

No ryders and berlangas on Floyd ppv resume

[Hustle]

Clottey, another fully fledged WW that Floyd ducked in spite of those smaller 140 fighters w all those numerous losses nobody asked for, Cotto had all the problems in the world dealing with Clottey. The Clottey of back then would beat Ennis with ease at 147 in the current era.

The same clottey that loss to baldomir?

Man please

[Haka]

JMM went on to have a SD with a prime Bradley, beat Mike Alvarado in Fight of the year and accomplished the best feat of any fighter at welterweight when he KO'd Pacquiao.

Triangle theories Maidana lost to Kotelnik.

[Hustle]

Floyd's never fought an ATG in their prime. He's fought guys in their prime but not great

Neither did Joe Calzaghe. But you love him