Prime Wilder beats prime Joshua

[daggum]

I don't want to hear it from either one of these clowns. They spent their whole career tapdancing around each other and now they're both used up and nobody cares.

cept thats just not true. it was wilder who didnt want the fight over and over, from turning down 12 million when he was making 1 million(his fans called his a lowball lol) to turning down 100 million, and then having a chance at the fight but losing to parker. false equivalency alert

[famicommander]

cept thats just not true. it was wilder who didnt want the fight over and over, from turning down 12 million when he was making 1 million(his fans called his a lowball lol) to turning down 100 million, and then having a chance at the fight but losing to parker. false equivalency alert

Don't give me that nonsense. Joshua turned down a big guarantee to fight Wilder too, because Hearn wanted Wilder to sign to Matchroom and fight bum ass Dillian Whyte first.

[Rockybigblower]

100% Wilder would have smoked Joshua in their primes. Thats not to say Wilder was the greatest fighter...but at his peak he had killer instinct and was a brutal finisher No-one ever got off the hook. On the other side...it has been proven to be a fact even at his peak that although AJ has decent punch power....that he cant deliver it once self doubt creeps in. Im not of the opinion that he has a cracked chin as such...but he has no recovery powers. He can take a shot...he just cant come back from one. And Wilder at his peak so often proved he only needed one.

[Willow The Wisp]

I don't want to hear it from either one of these clowns. They spent their whole career tapdancing around each other and now they're both used up and nobody cares.

Chances are....that the kid living in his moms basement Juuuust might be the clown, and not the world famous clean-rules world champions that you disparage.

Just my guess.

[Willow The Wisp]

Total respect to Anthony Joshua!
He had a fantastic career and did things that ordinary men, such as all the critics posting here, could never dream of in their easy jobs and hum-drum lives.

There has never been a doubt in my mind that boxing science, weight and quality of opposition are things that would never get a seat at the table for Prime Wilder vs. Prime Joshua.
I've said it for years; that A.J.'s makeup is built to order for Wilder.

This era is finishing up now, with just 15 months to go; and while Fury and Wilder got to dance 3 times in an epic encounter, the most popular of them all, Anthony Joshua, never got to join in with the other two longstanding title claimants of the era; which is devastating for his legacy.

But, What a great era it has been, though!
Better than most.

So the era now, as the end of it nears, looks somewhat like this:

The current era is 2015 - 2025

1. Oleksandr Usyk
2. Tyson Fury
3. Deontay Wilder
4. Zhilei Zhang
5. Anthony Joshua
6. Daniel Dubois
7. Joseph Parker
8. Andy Ruiz Jr
9. Martin Bakole
10.Luis Ortiz
11.Wladimir Klitschko (old ver)
12.Agit Kabayel
13.Dillian Whyte
14.Joe Joyce
15.Jarrell Miller
16.Alexander Povetkin (old ver)
17.Derrick Chisora
18.Kubrat Pulev (old ver)
19.Filip Hrgovic
20.Charles Martin
21.Fabio Wardley
22.Carlos Takam
23.Johann Duhaupas
24.Robert Helenius
25.Jared Anderson
26.Hughie Fury
27.Otto Wallin
28.Bryant Jennings
29.Frank Sanchez
30.Bermane Stiverne
31.Efe Ajagba
32.Chris Arreola (old ver)
33.Michael Hunter
34.Frazier Clarke
35.Bakhodir Jalolov
36.Tony Yoka
37.Murat Gassiev
38.Aleksandr Ustinov
39.Lucas Browne
40.Dominic Breazeale
41.Gerald Washington
42.Jermain Franklin
43.Lenier Pero
44.David Haye
45.Vyacheslav Glazkov
46.Ruslan Chagaev (old)
47.Guido Vianello
48.Arslanbek Makhmudov
49.Johnathan Guidry
50.Francis Ngannou

[Willow The Wisp]

cept thats just not true. it was wilder who didnt want the fight over and over, from turning down 12 million when he was making 1 million(his fans called his a lowball lol) to turning down 100 million, and then having a chance at the fight but losing to parker. false equivalency alert

Give it up. Your fighting a lost cause. Wilder > Joshua.

The history books will dismiss Wilder's last two fights just as it does Louis' last two, Ali's last two, Tyson's last two, and Wladimir Klitschko's last two.

Prime A.J. receives no such pardon for his disasters.

Today's development = Wilder again inches out ahead of Joshua in the all-career assessment.

[Toffee]

Willow The Wisp The history books can dismiss Wilder's last two losses, but they can't dismiss the rest of his career.

What did he really do? He got beaten at the top level every time. His best win is Ortiz - and I'm not sure how Ortiz makes your top 10 either.

[famicommander]

Chances are....that the kid living in his moms basement Juuuust might be the clown, and not the world famous clean-rules world champions that you disparage.

Just my guess.

Neither of them were ever world champion. They were world titlists. The world championship went from Klitschko to Fury to Usyk.

[pollywog]

cept thats just not true. it was wilder who didnt want the fight over and over, from turning down 12 million when he was making 1 million(his fans called his a lowball lol) to turning down 100 million, and then having a chance at the fight but losing to parker. false equivalency alert

There was no need to match Wilder with Parker when the AJ fight was there to be made.

Hearn and Joshua were running scared and always have been of Wilder just like they always been scared of a Parker rematch.

Its all academic now cos there's nothing in it for Parker to face AJ again. Parker is champ in waiting, AJ is back of the queue and Wilder is shot.

[daggum]

There was no need to match Wilder with Parker when the AJ fight was there to be made.

Hearn and Joshua were running scared and always have been of Wilder just like they always been scared of a Parker rematch.

Its all academic now cos there's nothing in it for Parker to face AJ again. Parker is champ in waiting, AJ is back of the queue and Wilder is shot.

based on what? the facts are joshua offered wilder 12 million dollars when wilder was making 1 million a fight. how is that running scared? joshua literally offered wilder 100 million and wilder turned it down to make much less. how is that running scared? they literally just signed to fight wilder but wilder lost to parker so the fight was scrapped. how is that running scared? wilder was the one who ran away over and over. you keep making excuses for wilders actions instead of just looking at the facts. if you dont want to fight someone you dont keep offering them huge career paydays. if you dont want to fight someone you dont sign to fight them, oh he lost to parker THE PLAN WORKED! wat? wilder was -600 to beat parker. they setup wilder to lose!