Prime Wilder beats prime Joshua

[pollywog]

based on what? the facts are joshua offered wilder 12 million dollars when wilder was making 1 million a fight. how is that running scared? joshua literally offered wilder 100 million and wilder turned it down to make much less. how is that running scared? they literally just signed to fight wilder but wilder lost to parker so the fight was scrapped. how is that running scared? wilder was the one who ran away over and over. you keep making excuses for wilders actions instead of just looking at the facts. if you dont want to fight someone you dont keep offering them huge career paydays. if you dont want to fight someone you dont sign to fight them, oh he lost to parker THE PLAN WORKED! wat? wilder was -600 to beat parker. they setup wilder to lose!

Based on the fact they never made Wilder an offer he couldn't refuse and never fought because of it.

All that a-side posturing and setting up roadblocks to age and shop wear Wilder shows they were never serious and knew AJ was a sitting duck for the Windmills right hand of doom.

AJ ducked Ortiz, Wilder, Joyce, Parker 2, Zhang and Hrgovic. Whatever he coulda, shoulda woulda done is irrelevant cos he didn't.

And for all that he got splattered senseless by the guy he should have ducked this time.

[daggum]

Based on the fact they never made Wilder an offer he couldn't refuse and never fought because of it.

All that a-side posturing and setting up roadblocks to age and shop wear Wilder shows they were never serious and knew AJ was a sitting duck for the Windmills right hand of doom.

AJ ducked Ortiz, Wilder, Joyce, Parker 2, Zhang and Hrgovic. Whatever he coulda, shoulda woulda done is irrelevant cos he didn't.

And for all that he got splattered senseless by the guy he should have ducked this time.

you will never be able to explain away why wilder ducked the fight and 100 million dollars. why dont you blame wilder for ducking that offer? instead you blame joshua for not offering him 200 million? its just silly fanboyism

[pollywog]

you will never be able to explain away why wilder ducked the fight and 100 million dollars. why dont you blame wilder for ducking that offer? instead you blame joshua for not offering him 200 million? its just silly fanboyism

Wilder bet on himself, rolled the dice v Fury and lost.
AJ had the chance for undisputed, undefeated grand unified champ status v Prime Wilder in 2018 and bottled it over a-side shenanigans and extra money.

Them's the facts!

[daggum]

Wilder bet on himself, rolled the dice v Fury and lost.
AJ had the chance for undisputed, undefeated grand unified champ status v Prime Wilder in 2018 and bottled it over a-side shenanigans and extra money.

Them's the facts!

Oh you mean the 50 million that Joshua had to agree to without seeig any contract? Yeah thats not a serious contract.

so ducking a fight is now called betting on yourself? Good to know. Well joshua bet on himself then! Oh wait you kjow what happened? Joshua signed a huge deal with dazn for far more money than wilder offered! Oops!!! And guess what? He even offered Wilder the fight for far more money after signing his deal with dazn. Wilder turned down the fight to make less money and not to fight joshua. You see the difference now? One guy sent a real contract for 100 million. Other guy sent an email then ghosted.

Pretty sure 100 million is better than 50 anyway if you want to pretend wilders offer was real. Joshua literally offered Wilder 100 million a couple months after his fake 50 million offer. Dont act like he ducked the fight.

[Ultralight]

Absolutely. All the arguments AJ fans used for why he would beat Wilder are the exact same arguments everyone just used for why he would beat Dubois. Joshua just faced someone he knows is a puncher and has been dropped by him before and STILL he dropped his hands and stepped straight back.

[BodyBagz]

Judges would definitely have the night off

[pollywog]

Oh you mean the 50 million that Joshua had to agree to without seeig any contract? Yeah thats not a serious contract.

so ducking a fight is now called betting on yourself? Good to know. Well joshua bet on himself then! Oh wait you kjow what happened? Joshua signed a huge deal with dazn for far more money than wilder offered! Oops!!! And guess what? He even offered Wilder the fight for far more money after signing his deal with dazn. Wilder turned down the fight to make less money and not to fight joshua. You see the difference now? One guy sent a real contract for 100 million. Other guy sent an email then ghosted.

Pretty sure 100 million is better than 50 anyway if you want to pretend wilders offer was real. Joshua literally offered Wilder 100 million a couple months after his fake 50 million offer. Dont act like he ducked the fight.

You seem to be hung up on money and contracts.

If AJ had truly wanted to fight Wilder all he had to do was stop being a diva princess with all the a-side demands and pay the man what he wanted.

But nope. Didn't happen cos he woulda got an Alabama asswhippin for his troubles.

[Haka]

Thing with Wilder is that he is a bit fragile against those super Heavy's. Wilder is not a 'bull in a china store' that is all wrong for AJ like Dubois and Ruiz are so AJ would be able to put some punches together.

[Willow The Wisp]

Oh you mean the 50 million that Joshua had to agree to without seeig any contract? Yeah thats not a serious contract.

so ducking a fight is now called betting on yourself? Good to know. Well joshua bet on himself then! Oh wait you kjow what happened? Joshua signed a huge deal with dazn for far more money than wilder offered! Oops!!! And guess what? He even offered Wilder the fight for far more money after signing his deal with dazn. Wilder turned down the fight to make less money and not to fight joshua. You see the difference now? One guy sent a real contract for 100 million. Other guy sent an email then ghosted.

Pretty sure 100 million is better than 50 anyway if you want to pretend wilders offer was real. Joshua literally offered Wilder 100 million a couple months after his fake 50 million offer. Dont act like he ducked the fight.

Why in the world would Wilder avoid a high paying guy with a sub-par chin? Ducking claims are silly.
Wilder is imperfect, both in his style and in the WBC opponent selection he was bound to....But he simply had far too much TNT for a fighter the likes of A. J.
That debate is sooo over.
Their quality of opposition was very similar. Joshua has the edge there, but lost 4 times during his prime time.
Respect to them both. This is the combat sport that pats hundreds of millions and the highest mountain for any athlete to climb.

Done.