Rjj at smw - overrated?

[The D3vil]

Dave Tiberi didn’t do far off that before Roy Jones did

That was at Middleweight.

Toney moved up, won & defended the 168 belt 4 times after that.

[IronDanHamza]

That was at Middleweight.

Toney moved up, won & defended the 168 belt 4 times after that.

Ok. So? The same logic you’re using there for Roy applies to the others.

Isn’t fhe excuse for getting totally schooled by Roy Jones that that he was at his best at MW? But yet that’s the same weight where he was beaten easily by Dave Tiberi and drew with Sanderline Williams, two unranked journeyman.

Then he moved up to LHW and was beaten easily by Drake Thadzi.

So why is it more impressive that Roy Jones did something that multiple journeymen did at supposedly weights where he was meant to be in better shape?

[MONGOOSE66]

Can you read? James Toney lost and drew to journeyman multiple times IN HIS PRIME YEARS you dumb cunt.

That’s at Middleweight, multiple times, so what are you talking about “overweight”?

The ONLY person he lost
to at 168 was RJJ and Griffin you dumb cum guzzling gutter slut twat. Go
fish re-tard.

[IronDanHamza]

The ONLY person he lost
to at 168 was RJJ and Griffin you dumb cum guzzling gutter slut twat. Go
fish re-tard.

Well firstly, Montel Griffin never fought at 168 in his life, you moron.

Secondly, he lost and drew to Journeyman BEFORE he fought Roy Jones. So what are you talking about? You’ve said he was “overweight” when this happened at a lighter weight, that people say was his peak weight (middleweight)

I don’t know how I can explain this in a way your idiotic brain can understand, but I’ll say it again, he lost and drew against Journeyman multiple times, IN HIS PRIME. That’s just a fact.

[MONGOOSE66]

Well firstly, Montel Griffin never fought at 168 in his life, you moron.

Secondly, he lost and drew to Journeyman BEFORE he fought Roy Jones. So what are you talking about? You’ve said he was “overweight” when this happened at a lighter weight, that people say was his peak weight (middleweight)

I don’t know how I can explain this in a way your idiotic brain can understand, but I’ll say it again, he lost and drew against Journeyman multiple times, IN HIS PRIME. That’s just a fact.

RJJ never lost a professional fight TILL HE WAS 34 YEARS OLD! When he lost he WAS PAST HIS PRIME YEARS. Fangirls dont understand this and never will. Prime years for a boxer peaks at 30 years old, personally I think its far earlier. Wear and tear suck the years away even earlier.
After 30 years old men gain more internal and external FAT, which means for the ladies who dont know on here that hes PAST HIS PRIME FIGHTING WEIGHT. Their are exceptions but im talking about the majority. We ALL GET OLD. That extra weight isnt helping efficiency.
Fan boys need to stick to talking to other fan boys.
Im no fan of any boxer unlike most of the ladies in here. I just love the fight game. ANY FIGHT GAME.

[IronDanHamza]

RJJ never lost a professional fight TILL HE WAS 34 YEARS OLD! When he lost he WAS PAST HIS PRIME YEARS. Fangirls dont understand this and never will. Prime years for a boxer peaks at 30 years old, personally I think its far earlier. Wear and tear suck the years away even earlier.
After 30 years old men gain more internal and external FAT, which means for the ladies who dont know on here that hes PAST HIS PRIME FIGHTING WEIGHT. Their are exceptions but im talking about the majority. We ALL GET OLD. That extra weight isnt helping efficiency.
Fan boys need to stick to talking to other fan boys.
Im no fan of any boxer unlike most of the ladies in here. I just love the fight game. ANY FIGHT GAME.

Are you literally brain dead?

I’m talking about JAMES TONEY you idiot. Can you not read?

[Haka]

RJJ never lost a professional fight TILL HE WAS 34 YEARS OLD! When he lost he WAS PAST HIS PRIME YEARS. Fangirls dont understand this and never will. Prime years for a boxer peaks at 30 years old, personally I think its far earlier. Wear and tear suck the years away even earlier.
After 30 years old men gain more internal and external FAT, which means for the ladies who dont know on here that hes PAST HIS PRIME FIGHTING WEIGHT. Their are exceptions but im talking about the majority. We ALL GET OLD. That extra weight isnt helping efficiency.
Fan boys need to stick to talking to other fan boys.
Im no fan of any boxer unlike most of the ladies in here. I just love the fight game. ANY FIGHT GAME.

How many PED tests did he lose ?

[MONGOOSE66]

Are you literally brain dead?

I’m talking about JAMES TONEY you idiot. Can you not read?

Whats the topic of this thread moron?

[MONGOOSE66]

How many PED tests did he lose ?

They’re ALL DIRTY. Dont be so naive.

[IronDanHamza]

Whats the topic of this thread moron?

Erm, I responded to your argument that “Froch couldn’t even beat Andre Ward” therefore would lose to the likes of James Toney. Even though Toney was easily beaten by journyman multiple times IN HIS PRIME.

This post;

LOL, Froch couldn't even beat Ward!! Nuff said.
I dont consider Ward anything special in comparison to the ALL TIME GREATS of 168 pounders. He's very good though. I think a peak RJJ, Hopkins, Calzaghe, Kovalev & Toney would have beat him.

To which you then responded to that you mean “at his peak at not overweight” even though those fights were IN HIS PRIME at his supposed best weight.

You’ve now responded by talking about Roy Jones for some reason when the conversation had nothing to do with Roy Jones. It was in response to your dumb point that “Froch couldn’t even beat Ward” as some kind of measuring stick when the fighters you named, such as Toney, lost to Journeyman in his prime multiple times.

Is English your first language? I get the sense that’s it’s not. Either that or you’re just plain retarded.