Comments Thread For: Terence Crawford vacates WBA title at welterweight, Eimantas Stanionis elevated

[champion4ever]

Damn Bud! He really doesn’t want any smoke from Jaron “Boots” Ennis.

He has now vacated or has been stripped of at least two of his welterweight titles.

Next, he is going to vacate both the WBC and WBO welterweights.

[champion4ever]

So what does Stanionis do now? They haven't accepted the offers from MatchRoom to fight Boots. Barrios seems to be headed for a fight with Pacquiao (Shameful). Norman already has a fight! Lastly, no one knows the contenders on the WBA list of WWs! I don't know why PBC won't make Barrios vs. Stanionis, but if I'm Stanionis, I'm looking to leave PBC, or leave 147!

The next step for Stanionis is e-mail champion.

[DClefthook]

First Boots ducked Norman. Then Twitterson ducked Tank. Now Bud ducked Boots. Man these Dazn fighters are Pucci! Tell you what, all Bud has to do is fight the WBA champ in recess who is Jermell Charlo and all is forgotten! I mean he was talking big shyte to Jermell so now isn't he time to back it up!

[Bullrider]

Tell you what, all Bud has to do is fight the WBA champ in recess who is Jermell Charlo and all is forgotten! I mean he was talking big shyte to Jermell so now isn't he time to back it up!

Tell PBC/Haymon to send an offer to Crawford. Charlo is not leaving his uncle Al.

[Hooded Terror]

For those that accuse Bud of ducking Ennis, a few examples of all-time greats not playing alphabet soup while their market value was very high:

Larry Holmes letting go of the WBC title when not submitting to their mandate on Greg Page.
Lennox Lewis letting go of the IBF title when not submitting to their mandate of facing Chris Byrd.
Rid**** Bowe trashing the WBC title when not submitting to their mandate of facing Lennox Lewis.
Marvin Hagler letting go of both the IBF and WBA middleweight titles by opting for Ray Leonard instead of Sumbu Kalambay and Herol Graham.
Roberto Duran letting go of the WBA junioe middleweight title by opting to face Thomas Hearns instead of Mike McCallum.

Side note from summer 1981. BOTH the WBA and the WBC balked/ordered Ray Leonard and Thomas Hearns NOT to move forward with their planned superfight, indicating they did not sanction the unification event. Smiling like a cheshire cat, Sugar Ray invited them to join the event, which was by then locked-in, advising them not to strip themselves of "WORLD title" credibility, given the two consensus best welterweights were facing each other as the world readied for the match.

[kiaba360]

Can't blame Stanionis for accepting PBC's offer. It's the only one on the table. What do you expect? He's not some heavily-hyped guy with 33 fights with names of insignificant note, while Stan got only 16 fights and he's already launched into joining the big boys club.Ennis wouldn't even take Josesito Lopez for his 25th fight, a guy who fought big names.

If PBC was the only one to offer Stani a contract, then he still should've thought twice about signing and analyzed his situation. Stanionis and Ennis were both associated with SHO, and both their careers stalled. They sat on the sidelines watching Spence hog the spotlight, with Stani stepping aside once or twice. I won't fault Stani for the Ortiz situation, but it doesn't make sense that Vergil returned to the ring before Stani did. The fact that Stani signed that PBC extension is mind-numbing. On the other hand, Ennis sued to get out of his contract with Cameron Dunkin and he ran far away from PBC. You could say "Well Boots had more options than Stanionis" and maybe that's true, but now here we are. It's Ennis' promotional team that's making the offer because MR is actually invested in his career, while Team Stanionis is the one refusing. Stani is a good fighter who's relying on fighters with greater marquee value than him. Not every fighter can be the A-Side, but he has an opportunity on the table and openly dismisses it.

I'm not sure how Ennis not fighting Josesito is relevant to Ennis/Stanionis. Am I supposed to be disappointed that Ennis didn't fight Josesito? Crowley beat Josesito in 2022 and nobody cared! Ennis beating him in 2020 wouldn't have mattered either!

[champion4ever]

First Boots ducked Norman. Then Twitterson ducked Tank. Now Bud ducked Boots. Man these Dazn fighters are Pucci! Tell you what, all Bud has to do is fight the WBA champ in recess who is Jermell Charlo and all is forgotten! I mean he was talking big shyte to Jermell so now isn't he time to back it up!

Hold up! You said that Stevenson was ducking Gervonta Davis? What evidence or proof do you have to support this claim?

Has an offer ever been made to Shakur Stevenson from Team Davis for a fight? Stevenson definitely ducked Devin Haney though; Not just once but twice.

[Bullrider]

If PBC was the only one to offer Stani a contract, then he still should've thought twice about signing and analyzed his situation. Stanionis and Ennis were both associated with SHO, and both their careers stalled. They sat on the sidelines watching Spence hog the spotlight, with Stani stepping aside once or twice. I won't fault Stani for the Ortiz situation, but it doesn't make sense that Vergil returned to the ring before Stani did. The fact that Stani signed that PBC extension is mind-numbing. On the other hand, Ennis sued to get out of his contract with Cameron Dunkin and he ran far away from PBC. You could say "Well Boots had more options than Stanionis" and maybe that's true, but now here we are. It's Ennis' promotional team that's making the offer because MR is actually invested in his career, while Team Stanionis is the one refusing. Stani is a good fighter who's relying on fighters with greater marquee value than him. Not every fighter can be the A-Side, but he has an opportunity on the table and openly dismisses it.

You may be overestimating MR's offer. Bear in mind that Turki has nothing to do with funding Ennis' fights at this point. This is all on MR. And they're not making offers as big as ESPN, for example. Nobody knows what was offered to Stanionis by PBC. Norman, for another case, might be better off financially staying with TR, than accepting a fight with MR. None of these fights are on Turki's radar, if that's what you're thinking.

[crimsonfalcon07]

Hopefully Stanionis can get some decent fights. PBC has that Amazon deal, so honestly it seems like it could be like the early years of DAZN when they were throwing money about. None of us were privy to the negotiations, but he may be getting decent guarantees staying with PBC. Time reveals all truths, as the saying goes.

[Bullrider]

I'm not sure how Ennis not fighting Josesito is relevant to Ennis/Stanionis. Am I supposed to be disappointed that Ennis didn't fight Josesito? Crowley beat Josesito in 2022 and nobody cared! Ennis beating him in 2020 wouldn't have mattered either!

I was making comparisons between Staninionis and Ennis. I didn't ask you to be disappointed. Ennis fought a nobody named Eyubov, then Abreu, then Heerden and so on. You can't possibly lie to yourself Josesito is not a better name than what these nobodies Ennis fought. And Lopez was just one example among many Ennis didn't even try to secure from his 25th fight. It's okay, you don't need to make a reply on this one.