Comments Thread For: Terence Crawford vacates WBA title at welterweight, Eimantas Stanionis elevated

[kiaba360]

You may be overestimating MR's offer. Bear in mind that Turki has nothing to do with funding Ennis' fights at this point. This is all on MR. And they're not making offers as big as ESPN, for example. Nobody knows what was offered to Stanionis by PBC. Norman, for another case, might be better off financially staying with TR, than accepting a fight with MR. None of these fights are on Turki's radar, if that's what you're thinking.

They shouldn't have to be on Turki's radar to get made though, but it's starting to feel like all boxers are waiting for the Saudi payday.

MR supposedly offered Norman $1.7M, an amount I think Top Rank will only pay him if he faces Teofimo. Who has TR/ESPN been making big offers to?

[Bullrider]

They shouldn't have to be on Turki's radar to get made though, but it's starting to feel like all boxers are waiting for the Saudi payday.
MR supposedly offered Norman $1.7M, an amount I think Top Rank will only pay him if he faces Teofimo. Who has TR/ESPN been making big offers to?

Teo Lopez admitted he and Shakur are getting $2 million per fight in between big fights, even on Thursday fights. Eddie Hearn made a mistake of making an offer to Jose Ramirez (when he was with TR) for Conor Benn and surprised to learn Jose was making that much. Ramirez turned it down, of course. It's cheap. And the venue was not even in the US, but in the UK.

[kiaba360]

Teo Lopez admitted he and Shakur are getting $2 million per fight in between big fights, even on Thursday fights. Eddie Hearn made a mistake of making an offer to Jose Ramirez (when he was with TR) for Conor Benn and surprised to learn Jose was making that much. Ramirez turned it down, of course. It's cheap. And the venue was not even in the US, but in the UK.

If you ask Teofimo, he should getting paid even more lol. Top Rank was building those three, and their pay-scale reflected that. I don't think MR making Ramirez an offer was a mistake, as it allowed Hearn to learn about Ramirez's payscale at that time. TR was probably able to justify Ramirez's minimum because they kept him fighting in his hometown. GBP seems to be doing the same. But, Norman isn't on their level yet, in terms of accomplishments or marquee value. Norman is coming off a good win, but he's yet to become a headliner. That takes time, and I think Norman showed vs. Santillan what it takes to get there. However, I would really like to see Ennis/Norman instead of Ennis/Chukhadzhian again or Norman/Cuevas. What we can predict is that Norman is probably not making 7 figures for Cuevas.

[Bullrider]

If you ask Teofimo, he should getting paid even more lol. Top Rank was building those three, and their pay-scale reflected that. I don't think MR making Ramirez an offer was a mistake, as it allowed Hearn to learn about Ramirez's payscale at that time. TR was probably able to justify Ramirez's minimum because they kept him fighting in his hometown. GBP seems to be doing the same. But, Norman isn't on their level yet, in terms of accomplishments or marquee value. Norman is coming off a good win, but he's yet to become a headliner. That takes time, and I think Norman showed vs. Santillan what it takes to get there. However, I would really like to see Ennis/Norman instead of Ennis/Chukhadzhian again or Norman/Cuevas. What we can predict is that Norman is probably not making 7 figures for Cuevas.

Ramirez joined GBP recently, but it's generally known that GBP is not offering more than what ESPN/TR do as indicated in this article:

"As to reports that Ramirez had to settle for less money with Golden Boy, Garcia said the difference was negligible."

https://photo.boxingscene.com/robert-garcia-on-jose-ramirez-signing-with-golden-boy-he-needed-change-new-start-hes-excited--180641

[wrecksracer]

First Boots ducked Norman. Then Twitterson ducked Tank. Now Bud ducked Boots. Man these Dazn fighters are Pucci! Tell you what, all Bud has to do is fight the WBA champ in recess who is Jermell Charlo and all is forgotten! I mean he was talking big shyte to Jermell so now isn't he time to back it up!

Is Jermell ever really going to fight again at 154? After making that Canelo cash, is he ever going to fight again?

[kiaba360]

Ramirez joined GBP recently, but it's generally known that GBP is not offering more than what ESPN/TR do as indicated in this article:

"As to reports that Ramirez had to settle for less money with Golden Boy, Garcia said the difference was negligible."
https://photo.boxingscene.com/robert...xcited--180641

It sounds like Ramirez was desperate to move on from TR. Not even a Teofimo fight could keep him there. I assume that GBP is going to line him up for Ryan Garcia.

[DClefthook]

Is Jermell ever really going to fight again at 154? After making that Canelo cash, is he ever going to fight again?

Did Canelo ever fight again after moving up to 175 to get embarrassed by Bivol? Is Jamie Munguia going to fight again after moving from 154 to 168 to get crushed by Canelo? Did AJ fight again after getting KOd by Andy? Why wouldn't Jermell fight again? He got quasi dropped and out worked by Canelo. He didn't get prison rha-ped by Canelo. Sure he can fight again. Jermell vs Bud is a huge fight for Amazon prime. Bud is not contractually bound to the Iron Shiek so he can go do business with Al again if he wants.

[DClefthook]

Tell PBC/Haymon to send an offer to Crawford. Charlo is not leaving his uncle Al.

Why would he leave Uncle Al? Should he go fight on Dazn with the Iron Shiek? Are the first 6 rounds going to be free on Dazn and then the last 6 rounds going to be PPV on Espn+? Why would he leave a professional company to go do business with a 2 bit fly by night org like Dazn?

[DClefthook]

Hold up! You said that Stevenson was ducking Gervonta Davis? What evidence or proof do you have to support this claim?

Has an offer ever been made to Shakur Stevenson from Team Davis for a fight? Stevenson definitely ducked Devin Haney though; Not just once but twice.

You know why I wrote that. Because it's funny to see all you guys who were haters of all black boxers just last year now you're defending Shakur Boots and Bud. Haha this shyte is so fuqing funny!

[Bullrider]

Why would he leave Uncle Al? Should he go fight on Dazn with the Iron Shiek? Are the first 6 rounds going to be free on Dazn and then the last 6 rounds going to be PPV on Espn+? Why would he leave a professional company to go do business with a 2 bit fly by night org like Dazn?

So? What's the hold up? Terence "Bud" Crawford is a free agent. He's on his own. There's no Hearn or Arum to deal with. And nobody knows why PBC is so slow. Couldn't make a single offer to or take advantage of these three free agents, Shakur, Bud, Hankey, whose fans are mostly PBC fans. I don't get it. I really don't. What does uncle Al don't like about these guys, any idea what?