Comments Thread For: Eddie Hearn: 'Devin Haney is taking Ryan Garcia fight rough'

[BronxPride67]

I do want to say that Garcia shouldn't be allowed in the game anymore, he's an idiot, social media dummy, and he made that racist comment, he should be band from any boxing

[1Eriugenus]

'Devin isn't likeable, him and his father are arrogant a**holes , Garcia would have beat him no matter what'

That is definitely the most stup1d comment made on these boards by someone that isn't Nash-out & Nash is being facetious.

[billeau2]

You must be La Raza or Chicano or something. Ostarine acts like a steroid agent.

Which is banned in all competition worldwide because it promotes both muscle and bone growth; Similarly to that of an anabolic steroid.

They are only available in the black market because it’s illegal.

Stop embarrassing yourself seriously. I have told people many times I am a Caucasian who was raised in a Puerto Rican neighborhood.

You really have focused to a dangerous level and they are really exaggerating the effects of o s t a r i n e. Reason has left you my friend.

[billeau2]

'This post... It is not a good post, it is not tactful... But THIS is exactly what most fans believe! Someone related to the Haney machine has to make it clear to Devin... It is what it is... There are a whole class of idiots on this board that want people to believe that this did not happen because... Well it did happen... If Haney is serious it is time for him to take his revenge, or let Ryan finish the job'.

It isn't, I sincerely hope, what most boxing fans believe. It is what some idiots believe &, as we can see, there are shedloads of idiots out there. You know, as well as I do, that if Ryan Garcia was black & ****** & Devin Haney was hispanic & christian they would be shrieking a very different story.

I don't know what you're referring to. I'll tell you what... Let's assume whatever point you made is absolutely correct okay?

Tell me how it changes the fact that Haney either is going to fight Ryan again and get destroyed, or, do what Cotto did against Margarito and redeem himself?

[champion4ever]

Stop embarrassing yourself seriously. I have told people many times I am a Caucasian who was raised in a Puerto Rican neighborhood.

You really have focused to a dangerous level and they are really exaggerating the effects of o s t a r i n e. Reason has left you my friend.

Fine! Let me compromise. It’s true that some sports commissions in the U.S. do allow for very small trace amounts of ostarine.

They are willing to give an athlete the benefit of a doubt because they believe in that trace amount cross contamination Bullshit theory but I don’t.

However, WADA, the NYSAC and VADA are not one of them. Any trace amounts of ostarine detected in an athlete’s system is automatically prohibited

See the trouble with Ryan Garcia was that he attempted to cycle off too late. Had he attempted to cycle off earlier; Perhaps he could have beaten those positive test results.

[billeau2]

Fine! Let me compromise. It’s true that some sports commissions in the U.S. do allow for very small trace amounts of ostarine.

They are willing to give an athlete the benefit of a doubt because they believe in that trace amount cross contamination Bullshit theory but I don’t.

However, WADA, the NYSAC and VADA are not one of them. Any trace amounts of ostarine detected in an athlete’s system is automatically prohibited

See the trouble with Ryan Garcia was that he attempted to cycle off too late. Had he attempted to cycle off earlier; Perhaps he could have beaten those positive test results.

No no no you misunderstand me totally. I would never say with any certainty how much o s t ar i n e Ryan used to dope. We don't know. He was using it for a period before the test. He could have been using massive amounts and just got caught with a small amount in his system. I'm also obviously not saying he didn't use something he wasn't supposed to and that wasn't against the law.

I'm not even saying there was not some benefit for Ryan. All I'm saying is we do not know the extent his drug use helped his performance. I'm talking scientifically. We just don't know the effects we can't know that info... We would need a duplicate Ryan who took no banned substance and to be able to compare the two. And while we're on this fantasy control experiment... We would have to ensure the same Devin Haney against both Ryan's lol.

Now... my other opinion in this case, not a fact, is simply that people can do things wrong that are not necessarily against the law. You see this as a red herring however I would have a lot more sympathy for Haney if he didn't rehydrate to the extent that he does. It's really as simple as that.

I think Haney realistically has to beat Ryan in the ring. It may not be right, but that's the reality and that's an opinion. Maybe he gets past this another way. I hope so.

[1Eriugenus]

Billeau2 up to now I've always respected your opinion but:

'I'm not even saying there was not some benefit for Ryan. All I'm saying is we do not know the extent his drug use helped his performance. I'm talking scientifically. We just don't know the effects we can't know that info... We would need a duplicate Ryan who took no banned substance and to be able to compare the two. And while we're on this fantasy control experiment... We would have to ensure the same Devin Haney against both Ryan's lol. Now... my other opinion in this case, not a fact, is simply that people can do things wrong that are not necessarily against the law. You see this as a red herring however I would have a lot more sympathy for Haney if he didn't rehydrate to the extent that he does. It's really as simple as that.I think Haney realistically has to beat Ryan in the ring. It may not be right, but that's the reality and that's an opinion. Maybe he gets past this another way. I hope so'

Saying that someone who broke the law could have achieved the same outcome within the law has never been a defence. Saying that someone else did so has never been an excuse. You are not talking 'scientifically' you are talking b0ll0x & I would hope you were aware enough to know that.

As for suggesting that the point should be decided by making 2 men, who we know can't safely make 140, fight at 140. What do you want? That has fatality written all over it.