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  • #21
    Haney should be happy - he got a win and learnt his flaws. Most people only learn their weaknesses after a career damaging loss. Haney needed an ego-check.

    Garcia did cheat 100% so people need to be honest about that too.
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    • #22
      Originally posted by 1Eriugenus View Post
      The biggest problem for Haney coming back, however, is that he probably can't safely make 140 any more. That is a massive problem because Haney has always been a big guy for the weight & used his dimensions. If Haney goes to 147 he won't have any sort of size advantage.
      Not just the relative size but the power differential is going to be a real liability for him.
      He doesn't take punches well in my opinion and that's only going to get worse at 147, and he's not going to punch harder at 147, either.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by hennanra1000 View Post

        Well we find out one way or another which one of us is right- Devin still has belt so he has path to redemption. Am backing Devin to come back stronger. Question of character - i don’t support dirty cheats like Ryan and if it was other way round people here would have no mercy on Devin. Devin was foolish to let the fight go ahead - that much he learned the hard way.

        People like you tbh are why fighters don’t take risks. He took a risk and lost like a man, despite everything Ryan did to cheat he didn’t back down from the fight. Give a man credit where it’s due. So what he lost badly - ckhe lost with honour - probably a foreign concept to you man.
        Don’t pay this troll no mind. He’s only breaking our balls. He’s a computer generated A.I.Troll designed by boxing scene’s engineering team to fuck with us.
        Last edited by champion4ever; 08-31-2024, 09:55 AM.
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        • #24
          Originally posted by boxingitis View Post
          How did Ryan pass VADA testing all through the leading of the fight and only failed on the day of the fight?

          So pretty much VADA testing sucks if they can't catch a person before hand and cancel the fight. What's the point of VADA then?

          Shouldn't VADA take some responsibility for not doing their JOB which is to catch people who are using PEDs? It's their dam job.

          If Ryan can fool VADA all up to a week before the fight, then that tell you how great VADA really is. Or did Ryan only use Osterine for a couple days before the fight.
          Osterine is mainly used for cutting weight without the low energy side effects that come with dropping weight. In theory, because Ryan blows up between fights, Ryan was thought to be micro dosing Osterine for a good while. Because micro dosing is matched to your body size, when you start losing the final pounds and dehydrate in the final week to weigh-in, the micro dosing is out of balance and trace amounts of Osterine can become detectable.

          Vada is still the gold standard for drug testing but they are not infallible, a good nutritionist and careful management can beat the system. On the other hand, the biggest drug dealer in sports is now the biggest maker of supplements and that's like having Jeffrey Dahmer the school yard crossing guard. It's criminally negligent!

          Hope this helps.
          Last edited by factsarenice; 08-31-2024, 10:08 AM. Reason: Spelling

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          • #25
            First and foremost the fight was made a no contest and i agree with that.
            I remember Dana White being asked about Garcia’ s test results. He said he didnt know **** about it nor cared but mentioned that people who understand the cheat game told him that positive was so lite that it wouldn't affect the fight. My understanding is that drug is used to cut weight not anything else especially at a low dose that was found in his system.
            Haney is being overly dramatic about that fight. Personally I think he fked up by not fighting his normal fight and BOX. He tried to run over Garcia and thats Garcia’s game. St.upid move.
            I think if they ever fight again Haney will out box him to a decision. It will be a boring fight as it should of been the first time.

            I cant get over that fact that the world S-T-U-P-I-D is considered equal to fk, ****, poosey & Kunt. I get it if I'm writing on a elementary school website but in a BOXING SITE? Bunch of pooseys running things. Probably get arrested for calling them men.
            Last edited by MONGOOSE66; 08-31-2024, 10:55 AM.
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            • #26
              Originally posted by archiemoore1 View Post
              Devin lost, but he lost to a guy who was packed with performance enhancing drugs. Ryan had a whole pharmacy in his bloodstream. He was HOW many times above the legal limit? So f...k Ryan and his cryin, lyin, racist punk ass. Devin come back, but stay off social media. Just go in the ring and speak with your two hands. But u gotta start hurting ppl. U have to learn how to punch with authority, son. You have skill, but you have this bs way of turning shots over that needs correction immediately.
              "Packed with performance enhancing drugs?" Exaggerate much? Haney got his ass beat, if trace amounts caused that big of an ass whooping then Haney would've been murdered if he was truly "packed with" PEDs.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
                Eddie Hearn is saying the exact same thing that I’ve been saying. Ryan lied. He is a compulsive liar.

                First he said that it was an inside job by Victor Conte and VADA to help frame and set him up.

                Then he remembered that yeah. I did take Ostarine but I didn’t take them to cheat.

                I had trace amounts of contamination in both of my supplements. Which caused me to test positive for it.

                Yeah right motherfucker! GTFOOH!
                Ryan actually admitted that he took it???? When??

                Also I took Ostarine before myself at 25mg a day for 8 weeks and honestly it was trash. Not much for performance but did give some vascularity while on diet. If u gonna cheat u do it with stuff that’ll actually make a big difference

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by bigtyivier2k2 View Post

                  Ryan actually admitted that he took it???? When??

                  Also I took Ostarine before myself at 25mg a day for 8 weeks and honestly it was trash. Not much for performance but did give some vascularity while on diet. If u gonna cheat u do it with stuff that’ll actually make a big difference
                  Yes, he most certainly did plead guilty for the illegal use of taking Ostarine before the New York State Athletic Commission. Which is the reason why he was both fined and suspended for a year by committing such an offense.

                  Ostarine’s manufacturing and distribution is prohibited globally because it has no medical benefit or use. Which is why one cannot obtain it legally anywhere on the open market.

                  Look man, Ostarine is a SARM. A substance which acts as a steroid. It helps athletes to cut weight by cutting body fat. While still maintaining and building muscle mass in the process.
                  Last edited by champion4ever; 08-31-2024, 12:26 PM.
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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Regge View Post

                    You Haney bruthas are pathetic grow a damn spine

                    Ryan flat out whooped his ass no damn picgram a day before would make any kind of difference so ya need to stop the bS because you fool Noone ya just Wana make yourselves feel better about the beatdown.

                    Ryan fuxkd his ass up beat him up properly and Ryan wasn't even at his best.

                    Eat that mfers!!!!
                    This post... It is not a good post, it is not tactful... But THIS is exactly what most fans believe! Someone related to the Haney machine has to make it clear to Devin... It is what it is... There are a whole class of idiots on this board that want people to believe that this did not happen because... Well it did happen... If Haney is serious it is time for him to take his revenge, or let Ryan finish the job.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by NC Uppercut View Post
                      Everyone seems to forget that Mauricio Suliman even said Devin has been overweight for his fight night weights by 23-29lbs. He even outweighed Garcia. Another thing gents, if Ryan was using, it was a weight cutting class PED. It doesn’t give you super natural power!

                      C’mon now. Let all be real. One was wrong, multiple times, and one was also wrong!
                      The idiot brigade will tell you: "But, but, but , but Ryan broke the law!!!!!!!!!!!!! So this means that Haney was not cheating when he came in so well rehydrated. It is just absurd, one has to laugh.

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