Comments Thread For: How much could the Saudi Arabia mirage eventually cost boxing?

[DClefthook]

There's no single one size fits all solution in this sport. Believing so is a waste of mental energy. How can you even measure the insatiable greed of people who want infinite amount of money? Boxing will stay the same forever. It's a business, not a sport. Trying to make it to something it is not is silly. Teo Lopez for example is waiting for the Turki offer and discarded the fight TR scheduled for him. How can anyone have any control over people's greed?

Normally I would "like" this but I refuse to LIKE anything that Mr Shytedyck does!

[dannnnn]

Another day, another Saudi hit-piece on Boxingscene. The agenda couldn't be more clear.

It's funny how selective people are with their morals. It always strikes me as extremely rich when Westerners try to play World Police and lecture people on what's right and wrong and who should be allowed to do this and that, when it could quite safely be argued that there has been no greater terrorist power the world over for the better part of a century than the United States. Perhaps we should ban everybody from setting up our boxing matches until we can find a nice pure utopian society with only goodness in their hearts to fund and oversee this competitive barbarity we call a sport.

And no, Haymon's situation was nothing like this one. Haymon came in with a bunch of someone else's money, stole all GBP's fighters and greedily and short-sightedly tried to create a monopoly by shutting out other promoters and refusing to do business with them. Unsurprisingly it failed. Turki came in with a bunch of his own money and spread it around liberally to boxers and promoters of all kinds without prejudice in a concerted effort to get everyone working together on the same team for the betterment of the sport. Polar opposites really.

Or it could just be because Haymon's black. I mean, the same few militant pro-black posters who make every single thread and talking point about race said so, so it must be that instead, obviously.

[DClefthook]

Another day, another Saudi hit-piece on Boxingscene. The agenda couldn't be more clear.

It's funny how selective people are with their morals. It always strikes me as extremely rich when Westerners try to play World Police and lecture people on what's right and wrong and who should be allowed to do this and that, when it could quite safely be argued that there has been no greater terrorist power the world over for the better part of a century than the United States. Perhaps we should ban everybody from setting up our boxing matches until we can find a nice pure utopian society with only goodness in their hearts to fund and oversee this competitive barbarity we call a sport.

And no, Haymon's situation was nothing like this one. Haymon came in with a bunch of someone else's money, stole all GBP's fighters and greedily and short-sightedly tried to create a monopoly by shutting out other promoters and refusing to do business with them. Unsurprisingly it failed. Turki came in with a bunch of his own money and spread it around liberally to boxers and promoters of all kinds without prejudice in a concerted effort to get everyone working together on the same team for the betterment of the sport. Polar opposites really.

Or it could just be because Haymon's black. I mean, the same few militant pro-black posters who make every single thread and talking point about race said so, so it must be that instead, obviously.

How ironic is it that you start off saying "another Saudi hit price on boxingscene" and then go on another long winded rant on "another black hit price on boxingscene"...haha you can't make this shut up mane......doe!

[Oldskoolg]

Have any of you lot thought that Haymon might be just a bad businessman?

One doesn’t become a self made millionaire in several businesses, have a masters from Harvard, and have been apart of the biggest money makers on boxing history by being a bad businessman especially noting the barriers laid on his road to success.
Looking at it that way, to even suggest that he is shows tremendous bias to begin with…

[wileyhemi]

I wonder how many fellow bloggers took the time to read all of this seemingly endless article

[boxingitis]

Oh shyte I'll take this one...EASYYYY WORK!!! (1) "So why can Canelo fight Muni".... Because Dazn can't afford Canelo anymore and they have to let PBC make those PPV fights because only Amazon can turn a profit with Canelo PPVs....... (2) "That's the reason they criticized Haymon and are praising Turd-ki".... The media started to criticize PBC at their formation in 2013 and Thurman v Barrios and Andy v Kong wasn't until 2022. The American media isn't as clairvoyant as you think ....... (3) "Look how long it took for Spence"....Bud Crawford was with Top Rank from 2008 - 2022 where he was advised by Bob Arum which if you can add is around 14 years. Bud vs Spence happened in 2023 under the stewardship of Al Haymon. Soooo 14 years...1 year...I don't know you do the math genius...... (4) "Tell me a match of the level of fury Usyk that Haymon has done".....WTF!!!!! Tank vs Ryan 1.4mill- Canelo vs Plant 850k - Bud vs Spence 750k - Canelo vs Munguis 700k... Usyk vs Fury did 1,5 mill PPV buys with most coming from the UK at 24.99 and the fight still lost 100 million dollars due to piracy and a low gate. There is no fight in the UK or Saudi that can compare to what Haymon can do in America. Stop it. Do your research before you post gibberish son!!!

I was not talking about money, I was talking about Levels of Quality, if that's the case Jake Paul much more PPVs thans most of the fighters. The only one is Crawford vs Spence. So Haymon could do May vs Pac, Wilder vs Fury, but couldn't make Spence vs Crawford while he was with Top Rank. Crawford had to fight David cause Haymon didn't want to do a fair contract. He couldn't even make Shakur vs Tank now that he is a FREE Agent, no "Top Rank" involved now. Shakur being calling it for years.What the excuse now?

Turki is not there to make profit, he is there to promote Riyadh Season.

Haymon had to offer Canelo more so he wouldn't leave his ass. He overpaid so the Amazon wouldn't seem like a flop. That was one of the bargains to get the Amazon deal.

[El_Mero]

Article was way too fcukin long. We're in a boxing Renaissance imo. It's funny how everyone thought pbc was going to do what Alalshik has done and didn't have an issue with it. Ol boy has made some good cards with rival promoters. I expect even better fights in the near future. Ginger been doin whaterver he wants to do so fcuk em. Hope Tszyu and Alalshik can get to better relations.

[TruthHurtsSometimes]

Kurt Emhoff has a vested, ethnic interest in opposing anything the Saudis do. He is a member of the most agressive group of "victims" on the planet. There are lots of reasons pro and con for having one entity overseeing a sport, but if you think Emhoff, Bob Arum or Ben Shalom will support anything Saudi, you're not being realistic.

[Corelone]

Keep your eye on the ball. Watch Eddy, double guard. This Ali Baba guy is about dream matches, and used cars. Betes is the draw here. Who expects anything but a good show from what's his name? Oh yeah, Canolo's grandpa.

[DougalDylan]

That really is so ultra revealing. It shows you the massive contempt so many have for a foundational black American being the driving force in boxing in this new global era of race based ultranationalism. Nationality in itself just doesn’t matter, race does. As I’ve said before, in America, they have begun not to care where you were born, only your race matters.

The biggest racists on here are the cult of Haymonites they'd gladly kill off boxing in the rest of the world, all we heard was Canelo isn't fighting any black fighters etc , they went beserk when AJ did stadiums in the UK all the uncle Tom cr*p came out etc etc