Comments Thread For: Shakur Stevenson says 'young black guys' are held to a different standard when it comes to entertaining in the ring

[The Big Dunn]

the guys u are talking about, tanks and floyds etc are the ppv guys in the sport, they make the cash so thats king at the end of the day, the other guys the lomas and gggs cant sell a ppv, remember ggg was mr 29k or something for a long time, thats the bottom line, u are saying some people dont get their due or respect or whatever, well they do & the rest

That doesn’t mean the point doesn’t have validity.

I think that jealousy is part of the problem. Posters sweat Floyd is boring or Tank fights all bums, but they sell more than the guys posters like. That creates a lot of jealousy on this site.

Well yeah, that was some trolling from fans. That surely wasn’t what the majority were saying on this site about him. That said, when people argue these guys are stars when they can’t fill the 5k seat Hulu Theatre without a Puerto Rican young star from NYC in the semi main, this is going to happen.

I didn’t say that at all. I said the point that younger black boxers get treated differently is a valid point, it just isn’t why Shakur is getting treated like he is imo.

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I didn’t say that at all. I said the point that younger black boxers get treated differently is a valid point, it just isn’t why Shakur is getting treated like he is imo.

let me think for a sec

if u gave me a choice, u can be a young black good prospect boxer from the states somewhere or the same from russia in white or whatever for example, id take the young black american guy option any day of the week, not sure what that means tho lol

[The Big Dunn]

let me think for a sec

if u gave me a choice, u can be a young black good prospect boxer from the states somewhere or the same from russia in white or whatever for example, id take the young black american guy option any day of the week, not sure what that means tho lol

I would too in America.

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I would too in America.

u have to go with the potential cash making here, the prospects are very good if u can actually fight well, same with the rare white americans u see now in the sport and latinos as well, if i was making good cash i dont think i would care much for opinions really, u cannot make everyone happy, if u are getting paid well someone likes u and probably a lot

[Smash]

Lmfao. The Tank fans don’t criticize showboating, the Loma fans do, unless it’s Loma.

to be honest thinking about it, i dont think ive read much if any stuff about tank and his showboating whatever he does lol, maybe its gone over my head but i cant recall any crap he got right now

[Corelone]

I'll tell you who is wildly popular. Delboy, but he isn't young. Its kind of like he earned it.

[TheOneAboveAll]

Great question. There are at least 2 principle ways, perhaps more. One: many young black boxers face the same kind of bigotry that other young black males face. Two: most come from impoverished single-parent backgrounds in crime-ridden neighborhoods that have terrible public schools, and every other disadvantage associated with poverty. This holds for most non-black kids who grow up in similar situations.

Respectfully, that was a pretty vague and light-on-specifics answer. I still don't know what you mean, specifically. Most fighters, across the world, come from humble backgrounds. Ask most any fighter from Mexico, Venezuela, Kazahkstan, Phillipines, etc how hard their lives have been. Most of those guys are objectively poor, and, having been born in countries with little opportunity to advance, they have few options apart from fighting to rise out of that status. Black Americans may represent a 'relatively poor' demographic in the USA, but there is a big difference between relative poverty and absolute poverty, which is what most fighters from 3rd world countries contend with. Black Americans, relatively speaking, are among the more privileged groups in the world, thanks to the social safety net afforded to them by this country's ever-expanding welfare state. Ask your average Uzbeki fighter if he grew up with an iPhone, PS5 and Netflix. If black Americans suffer through poverty in 2024 it is primarily attributable to culture, values and behavior that simply do not predict economic success and viability. This is a complex topic to unpack, but its hardly debatable at this stage.

[BodyBagz]

So......is the world in general, America specifically, against Mr Victimson ?
In what way I wonder

[rickJen]

Great question. There are at least 2 principle ways, perhaps more. One: many young black boxers face the same kind of bigotry that other young black males face. Two: most come from impoverished single-parent backgrounds in crime-ridden neighborhoods that have terrible public schools, and every other disadvantage associated with poverty. This holds for most non-black kids who grow up in similar situations.

Compared to other countries, people in America have the same opportunity as any other American.
Look at the Vietnamese. They came to America with nothing, couldn't even speak English.
Of course, the discrimination they experienced had no equal.
Look at them now and their kids. They're doctors, engineers, business owners, etc.

[BodyBagz]

Compared to other countries, people in America have the same opportunity as any other American.
Look at the Vietnamese. They came to America with nothing, couldn't even speak English.
Of course, the discrimination they experienced had no equal.
Look at them now and their kids. They're doctors, engineers, business owners, etc.

Don't you know ?
It's easier to play the blame game than to work hard and earn it.
In this case, Mr Victimson is definitely being held back
In any other country (or continent ), he'd be even more rich and famous